Cory can be described in two words, Man whore. Apart from his promiscuity he enjoys writing and reading scripts, playing anything Team Ico makes, and pickling his liver on a daily basis. While his failings are many, he makes up for them by posting infrequently and writing WAY too much.
Jorge is best known for his artistic prowess and love of fighting and retro games. When he’s not practicing 1 frame invulnerabilites or downloading something off XBL, he leads a boring married life. On the upside his wife makes amazing salsa.
Rich doesn’t post nearly enough, and when he does it’s about some bit of obscure gaming news. He also gets his jollies from living in a mansion while not having a job, and waking up whenever he feels like it. Also cocks.
Besides crushing face in Quake 3, Belisle is a man who enjoys the simple pleasures of life. He also happens to have the best title.
Josh is the enigmatic webmaster and photographer of Golgotron. He usually has to do things himself, like write these bios, make posts, and build the website. While he’s not doing these things he either plays TF2 or L4D, and he doesn’t have an XBL gamertag.
Like all girls Molly enjoys the Final Fantasy series and playing games 5 – 10 years after they came out.
Also
(3:56:36 PM) Molly: I bring class and grace to the podcast :p
(3:56:50 PM) Molly: and I’m the resident Sony Fangirl
(3:57:03 PM) Molly: smash bros player extraordinaire
(3:57:07 PM) Molly: there is much to be said about me
Geoff totally has a hat, which he wears without a care in the world. Apart from that he writes kickass articles, and long walks on the beach.
Justin appears on Golgocast and infrequently writes articles. He is also our bridge to the LGBT gamer community.
Terry – Twitter
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Terry brings legitimacy to GolgoCast by gracing us with his good looks and awesome radio voice. He is also a 9.2.
Hines contributes his talents as a photographer as well as the occasional article, he also excels at bringing up the median number of beers drank during the podcast.
Bjorn is the man to go to when you have a sports related question. If it involves balls he’s in the know, unless it’s porn.
I don’t like your new editor. Just kidding. Welcome!
Special forces mode is gonna rock, i think there is no need to complain as long as they give us enough missions
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I am all over this game. Neat-o.
Cinnamon? No shit? That makes me want to cry a bit.
Golgotron….*splooooosh*
That is all.
I PLAY COD4 EVERYDAY WITH 3 MILLION OF MY FRIENDS SO I TANK THIS NUMBER ARE ACCURATE
I thought it was pretty clear that the 13 million included Silver accounts playing single player, but I guess you’re right, some blogs out there seemed to just pass the news on without considering the numbers. Still, it’s not ridiculous; I’ve got the game, and we’ve only got the one Gold account in this household, but two Silvers, so for that one game sale they got three unique users for their stats, and I’m sure there are people out there with more like that. I can only imagine how it’d be like if I had a 360 in college; there were eight of us living in a house.
The problem I have is that in the sentences before he quotes the 13 million, he is specifically talking about multiplayer and Xbox LIVE, which makes it seem like he is only referring to Gold members.
I think you’re lying. Prove it.
You understand that there is whole separate chunk of the game committed to coop right?
look mother fucker. i have played this with all my 8 accounts and so have my friends with all their 8 account on my xbox and vica versa. Who the fuck are u to question bowling his word is rod
what is this xbox? some kind of supercomputan mechanism?
Man, what an awesome article. I can’t believe I didn’t think of it. I like the way that everything you said is just guesses but it made so much sense.
Damn. All I have to say is… I am sexy
Just kidding. You guys are great!
@Yo, the only thing I am guessing on is the numbers to make up 13 million.
Fact, CoD 4 sold less than 7.5 million units on the 360.
Fact, there are less than 10 million LIVE Gold accounts, the real number is close to 6-7 million
Fact, in order for the 13 million to be true, there need to have been 5.5 million people that have played the game that haven’t bought it, either through renting or borrowing.
Fact, when Bowling quoted 13 million, that includes Silver members
So When Bowling says, “The thing we learned about the most, probably, is how much focus goes into multiplayer. I mean Call of Duty 4 on Xbox LIVE just exploded. I mean right now we’re at 13 million unique users on 360, and that’s insane.”, he is specifically referring to multiplayer and Xbox LIVE. But he then says that have 13 million unique users. That is misguided and bullshit and sites like Joystiq and Eurogamer need to call it like it is.
Meh! What do we say about the person who spent the time to write about it too? “meh?”
OK, number 1, cute fucking cat in the header… 2, if you use the word legit in another post, I’m gonna go apeshit.
3, Meow Foundation? The Meow Foundation???
Can we use the word “legacy” instead?
“legacy” is not allowed either. It sounds cool, but when I think about it it sounds more like an insult. Seriously think about it.
If you are running a computer that uses a parallel port for its printer, a PS/2 port for the keyboard and mouse and has a 8x AGP graphics card, that shit is legacy and you need a new computer.
Does the plaid attract the gay lumberjacks, or do you have to use maple syrup?
It was only a good idea after several drinks. I’m not being “that” douche bag who gets thrown out of Sony. Remember kids, just say no to peer pressure.
Cory is a vagina clown. It would have worked. Best case scenario, Cory gets in. Worst case scenario, they notice its fake and tell him he can’t get in and then he goes to the hotel and watches it on GameTrailers. I am ashamed to know you Cory.
Get some video with Golgobit in that shit, yo!
Stupid article. It assumes both that this is intended to replace the traditional controller/games, and that Microsoft is going to focus on traditional games when developing for this new medium.
Both are incorrect. You’ll still have your traditional games, and they’ll stay far away from this. Think outside the box on this one…something I see a lot of people unable to do. “Well I need to press at least one button…” or “Halo couldn’t be controlled with this…” Shhh. You don’t need to press anything. Imagine a type of game where you don’t have to press anything. Let your imagination soar, and stop thinking in the box with the genres that work best with a traditional controller.
Two very separate things. Think what you can do with technology like Natal, and ignore what has been done before in “traditional” games. Use the “limitation” of no buttons as inspiration for a new type of product.
I don’t read this website for insightless, worrisome articles like this. You shouldn’t be writing about something when you have such a stilted view on the subject.
Rich, do you decode ciphers in your off time? LOL
haha, the UR MR GAY comes courtesy of a friend by the name of ElectroLemon back in the day from the destructoid community.
I tried to make it on for that, but I got home a half an hour to late and the session was already completely full. It was quite a bummer… Do you have any idea how many people were on the server?
Seriously. It’s one thing to have an opinion. It’s another to write for a website and do such a poor job of relaying said opinion.
Golgotron is a new website. You should be building credibility… not chasing the 5 new people you have reading this website away with ranting garbage.
It’s bad enough all you’ve done is downloaded wordpress and slapped a theme on it (Isotherm is way overused by the way AND you stripped out the credit of it’s author but have the nerve to add a copyright symbol for the word golgotron) but now you are already writing as if you were some celebrity that we should all enjoy your little unfunny quips!
I’m already finding myself wanting to unsubscribe because all of the articles written by namelessted a.k.a rich are the same useless nonsense.
95% of what you write is just telling the world what you don’t like.
See:
http://golgotron.com/2009/06/psp-go-what-the-fuck-is-sony-thinking/
http://golgotron.com/2009/05/fable-2-can-shove-it/
http://golgotron.com/2009/05/pre-e3-rumors-i-hate-them/
I <3 Chatterbox. I am giving this website a chance in support of the podcast… and like the people in the natal video… Rich is a tool.
Sadly, like the podcast, rich is ruining an experience yet again.
Fun stuff. It was an awesome party.
Seriously Cory? I have a vagina and I would have snuck in. I am very disappointed.
I can see the direction that Microsoft is headed with this, and frankly, I’m terrified. Imagine if this gh3y little video was an accurate depiction of the average American family? Imagine if people were so dependent upon machines and afraid of the outside world, that two friends couldn’t even take the time to go clothes shopping together in real life, or that two families would rely on an xbox to poorly emulate a family game night. That’s my first qualm, the whole liquid lifestyle this sort of product promotes.
My second grievance is that control systems like this lack tactile feedback. How hard do you know to turn a steering wheel when there is no resistance? Those subtle nuances in controller manipulation that allow great gamers to excel are less feasible with these methods of control. The games will most likely be designed to interpret a large sum of different input to produce the same in game result. All this does is take a control system that is already beautiful and dilute it with cheap gimmicks and broken mechanics.
The real problem with this shitty product, that most people seem to miss, is that there are already a ton of games you can play that require your entire body. There’s the traditional sports, there’s tag, capture the flag, paint ball, and whatever else your mind can come up with. Traditional controllers are important because they provide a UNIQUE experience. I love the feeling of the xbox controller in my hand. I love the feeling of popping off someone’s head in gears with a flick of the joystick. I love drifting in Outrun, and dodging bullets with the joystick in a shmup! A traditional controller provides a separate unique experience, much in the way the guitar hero controller provides a different experience than an actual guitar. There is NOTHING this product can offer any of us! I don’t need a god damned xbox to pretend like i’m a monster destroying a city. I have my own body and my own mind to take care of that.
I love controllers. I love my keyboard and my mouse. Control is an essential aspect to the gaming experience. If microsoft really thinks that it can take away controllers and provide people with an overpriced emulation of real life, they can go fuck themselves.
Dude these pics are Photoshop worthy. I’m on it.
That poor 360 in the ridiculously close up crotch shot. It’s getting sat on! =(
Once again, because I didn’t go I got into Konami’s press briefing and got to meet Kojima. We also got to go talk to Valve and play L4D2… you all can proceed to a fire and die now. Thanks.
So, not to dawg on Kotaku or anything, but this gallery is way better. It *is* pretty cool that they put up a picture of me, though
http://kotaku.com/5277889/red-hair-short-shorts-dead-eyes-e3-booth-babes-return
What the–? That’s the same pin-stripe shirt you wore to PAX last year. I declare schinanigans!
Here is a much better version of this that isn’t funding shady organizations such as the MEOW FOUNDATION:
http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/g3/bells.htm
And it would probably run on that computer NamelessTed mentioned.
It’s got BlueTooth shit ain’t cheap.
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When you fucking ask some random chick to hold your stupid plush toy, atleast have the decency to ask her name and thank her.
Want to internet stalk her katakana?
Josh wins.
Nope, I think it’s called respect.
Then again you’re all fat, zit infested, doritos eating basement dwellers that even the ugliest dick chick wouldn’t even bother glancing at.
So I totally get it if you don’t understand. Say hi to your girlfriends for me, by that I mean your hand that you bone everyday.
Seriously dude? I think this is one of those ‘look in the mirror situations’. Just cause we’re having a blast doesn’t mean you need to be a dick. Get a life.
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wow, my mic sucks, lols. I need to move it farther away from my mouth i thinks cus i pops when i says “b”s and “p”s.
Yeah, I sound like I’m 10 and there’s a weird popping sound throughout most the cast… we need new equipment.
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Just figured I’d let you know at least one other person listened to the pod cast so far. I have to admit, I was very sad at first when I realized Alon and Ara were not in on the recording, but I quickly grew to like you guys when you put Rich in his place about scribblenauts.
Don’t get me wrong Rich, I like your bantering and I really appreciate your PC knowledge that you bring to the chatterbox table, but you seem a bit pessimistic lately.
I was also excited to hear that you would let more people help out with the site.I’d love to help out in any way I can.( I do lots of design work) Ill send one of you an email about that, because I don’t think this would be the right place to rant about my “services”.
Anyways I really enjoyed it and keep it up the good work! ( and buy a mixer….
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I can hardly believe how many hours Wiebe spent playing that game during that one competition day; he must have been slamming the Red Bulls
that’s what i call effective product placement
It’s all my fault… *sob* I try so hard to be pretty…
I think the only other main argument that was left out here, is that they want Valve to finish up Half life 2 episode 3 already. Which is understandable, but, I think valve’s got a few surprises up their sleeve that could potentially justify the wait.
Im curious to see just how much damage these L4DPs jerks could actually do. I bet 90% of the L4DPs are all snobby PC gamers and with the Xbox community backing up the sequel they will most likely be put in there place.
I never heard that one, they think that Valve only works on a game at a time? Who are these people!
the green needs to be darker
katakana,
You’re totally wrong. I am *sure* I saw a girl glance at me while at work today. In fact, she glanced over a couple times. In fact, she couldn’t take her eyes off me. It’s weird, she must be really close friends with the security guard because they were talking about me for a while.
So, it does exactly what they said it does?
Ohhhhh snap! Nice gallery gents!
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Awww peas. I just (a month or two ago?) bought MTG cards for the first time in years, and now here’s something I would have preferred?
I’ll have to (at the very least) demo this.
Where do I fill out an application to be a guest host on GolgoCast? LOL
I loved the edge you guys had when you brought your opinions to the topic at hand, without being petty and slamming the opposing opinion. Had a lot of fun listening.
BTW, the game that let’s you skip ahead was the latest rendition of Alone in the Dark.
My goal is to first record an error free podcast, and then I’ll try adding Skype in the mix for guests!
Look, they’re cars! Odd looking ones at that.
This is a really great article and it makes me feel even more sad that a wii still cost more than a 360.
You’re damn skippy it’s a great article! I still get a little weepy every time I read it… and I read it about ten times a day.
But seriously… I actually intended to write something very different when I started this one. OK, maybe not all that different, but I wanted to talk about how other companies are making better technology than Nintendo and doing it for less – like the motion controller some tiny company is making for the XBOX 360. Go to http://squeeballs.com to see what I mean. It’s nothing special, but the XBOX 360 version handled way better than the Wii version because there’s more going on in that controller and in the sensors. Nintendo spent all their energy on an idea, but now that the cat’s out of the bag, other companies are doing more with less.
Fun show guys. Bravo to Rich, you are very knowledgeable about computer hardware components.
BTW, one of my favorite animated shows was Avatar: The Last Airbender. It really snuck up on me, but after I started watching it I got hooked.
Let me know when you guys decide to have guests on.
I don’t do the iTunes thing so here’s a yahoo pipe link of the podcast only RSS feed for none iTunes users.
http://tinyurl.com/noduu2
You could just use the real feed at http://golgotron.com/feed/podcast
iTunes needs an RSS feed to work for subscriptions so there’s always one on the backened.
cool.. I didn’t see a feed link before…
It’s because I sneakily put it in after you posted your pipes link. Gotta love pipes.
If reading the forums for a game is a poor investment of time, and it is, then reading your commentary of such forums has to be even more so.
“… but life is also worth living. Don’t stress about small stuff, and please learn proper grammar and spelling when posting on forums.”
Only when posting on forums?? Being the pinnacle of the written word I can see why you only chose forums.
Grammar and punctuation are part of “the small stuff” btw. I mean be intellectually honest with yourselves in realizing that the point of communication is simply to transfer an idea or thought from one person to another. Punctuation and spelling aside as long as that basic dynamic is achieved communication has served its fundamental purpose. Punctuation and grammar are tools elitist use to ostracize and distance themselves from others who they feel do not match their intelligence level. In fact they are the essence of true crap as they do nothing more than to fancify a language and communication construct. Very petty way to go about trying to convince yourself that your are actually an intellectual.
Having a place to post your thoughts on the internet obviously does not make you a journalist capable of writing something people want to actually want to read.
What is this wall of text, I can’t be bothered to read it. Someone else give me an executive summary.
HAL3000, if reading commentary on forum posts is a poor use of your time, wouldn’t writing that long reply be even worse?
I love how I’m the man-whore, and I was the only one to follow through with the nerdy high school photo idea…sigh
I fucking LOVE hot dogs.
It’s true… Wii Sports is the best game on the Wii. Sad but true.
It’s “on the lam”, not on the lamb.
I mean, assuming that’s what you meant. Maybe you were riding a lamb around.
Yea, Josh no offence but i completley agree with HAL3000. You sit around and WRITE ABOUT PEOPLES WRITING. If you think that wrighting in forums is a poor way to spend time. What kinda life are you living. I bet you think your cool because you put down kids that have some time to mindlessley write about how they feel about not having cheats in Prototype? God dude, u actually had to look for a good forum to write about. hahahah
love,
giligim
Ha, you’re exactly the kind of person I write about. Thanks for ‘wrighting’ though.
Wanna give it a listen, but it isn’t showing up in iTunes yet. :-\
Apparently not available on iTunes as of yet – at least, that is what my iPhone is telling me.
I have to agree with most points.
Nostalgia is evil and misleading. I can not count the amount of games I have tried revisiting from my past that have been a total let down years later. Many Sega side-scroller hits are now mundane and pathetic. Did I really once somewhat enjoy Shinobi and Vector Man? Sonic games for me are complete crap in 2009 beyond the first few stages. Almost all of the beat-em-ups from my childhood like Streets of Rage, TMNT the Arcade game, Golden AXE, etc… are a chore to play now. (Oddly enough though I loved Castle Crashers!)
Yet with every bad visit I take down memory lane, I still can’t explain why the original The Legend of Zelda, Super Mario Brothers, and Mike Tyson’s Punch Out NEVER get boring for me nor does the Nostalgia ever wear thin. Why can I play games such as Day of the Tenticle and The Neverhood and know every puzzle solution to progress the story and still enjoy myself? How does Donkey Kong still hold my attention at every arcade I visit that has it?
The only answer that I can come up with is that these just ARE good games. Sadly it takes a revisit to really test some of our memories.
Board games are a similar experience. I can play Monopoly and Chess with as much fervor today as I could when I was in middle-school but games like Operation and Mouse Trap are complete garbage even though I played those with as much adoration.
I think the big difference is that when we are younger or exploring new hobbies we are forgiving to mediocre experiences. Dating in highschool is the same way. Most of us have fond memories with short-term girlfriends in middle and high school, but if we were to somehow relive those experiences again, we would probably end up slapping them for how stupid and annoying they really were.
Experience trumps Nostalgia. Just make sure you take Alon’s advice and put some extra thought into what you want to revisit. My iPhone’s version of Vay says “Hello”.
While you have made some very valid points, it all comes back to the universal question “Why do you play video games?”
Why do you spend an ungodly amount of time on something that warrants no physical rewards?
Well one of those is entertainment. And if someone finds a remake of an “old skool” game entertaining and worthy of picking up because it is yet another product of time consumption, then that is what it is.
Take the new Secret of Monkey Island game. There will not be any significant changes in the dialogue, but the graphics and some of the play mechanics will be tweaked to attract a new audience to a PC classic. Add that up with the fact that it’s coming to XBL.
Personally, I would go back and pick up Doom so I can experience the game for what it was. I never finished the game, and I never got to understand what it was that has attracted people to it for all of these years. There are some people (including myself) that enjoy playing older games to just experience what we had, and appreciate the evolution of our beloved industry.
There are even numerous older games I have played, that exhibited better play mechanics than some newer games in an overall sense.
It all comes down to the big “Why”. It isn’t fair to fit this into a microcosm of “Why are you playing old games, they suck” (especially when it is your opinion). The consumer is a human being, and all human beings are dynamic.
The popularity of Mega Man 9 teaches us this fact, when it can be argued that Mega Man 9 is no different than the others, and should have never been considered for purchase.
A point I failed to bring up is when some IP is wrapped up in a shiny new package simply because of the popularity of the first one or two games merely to suck money out of the nostalgic gamers.
That is unacceptable.
My favorite example is when they turned StarFox into an action/adventure/platforming game. I’ll never forgive them for that.
Doom Resurrection on the iPhone isnt even doom you fucking retard. The Doom port is a separate game are you 15 years old or something?
Be careful guys, there were too many instances of cross-talk, making it hard to follow along with the conversation.
Other than that, great debate about nostalgic gaming. Another good show.
I believe you, sir, may have missed the point.
Thanks to Axtuse and Wakasm, though, for paying attention.
And to continue my thoughts… I’m convinced that puzzle games are the only ones that could really live forever. An argument could be made for fighting games, as well, but I’m not nearly as convinced as Jorge.
You should list what you downloaded! Especially since the iTunes list changes frequently.
i would like everyone to know that i was doing it right and that ted sux.
Lllllllooooooooooove it.
I was looking over the Xbox Live Arcade offerings recently, looking for ways to spend 400 points. Many classic games caught my eye: Joust, Galaga, Tapper, Super Contra, and TRON, among others. Fortunately, thanks to XBLA’s free demos, Rationale had the opportunity to rear its head prior to me plunking down the cash. These games just aren’t fun, though I attribute that not wholly to the “progress” we’ve made since their heyday. I’m used to playing these games in the arcade, and my annual treks to get my coin-op fix are still worth it, as they’re still fun and still challenging. But they weren’t made for the XBLA, and no amount of achievements or leaderboards can make it so. My Microsoft points are better spent on newer stuff made for the medium, like Portal: Still Alive, or Bionic Commando Rearmed.
To me it sounds like his point is completely valid. The one thing that I would like to know is whether or not people use that ability in actual (actually) PvP or not. If people DO use that ability in PvP the professor’s point is completely valide. If people do NOT use that ability in PvP, then his point is only slightly less valid.
I mean, its a bunch of people sitting around in a PvP are so that can just talk to each other. That is fucking retarded. If you are a hero and want to talk to a villain then just make a villain character. That or get a bunch of people to ask the developers to implement an a safe zone where both factions can be and nobody can attack or use abilities.
The way I see it as being a person on the outside is that he is entering a PvP environment where people chose to not fight and he started killing people and then people got mad at him for it. I really don’t think the method in which he used to kill people make a difference because I would assume that people would get angry after constant attacking.
If those people didn’t like it, then they can fucking leave. It is a PvP area so they should just get the sand out of their vagina and deal with it.
I think that what he was doing is probably the most creative and coolest way to grief. It was even considered legal by the devs on the forums!
City of Heroes, if anything else, is more role play than WoW and the line is clearly drawn if you are a “Hero” or a “Villain”. Twixt just took the idea of “Hero” to a whole new level – targeting villains with his special power and creatively punished them for their chosen profession. That’s awesome!
Getting mad at him would be like people getting mad at Superman from being too Super and not having kryptonite on you to counter. Batman would be prepared. The villains should be too. Not to mention they shouldn’t be in a PVP zone to begin with if they can’t stand actual PVPing…
The power was in the game. If said power was “overpowered” then game Dev’s could easily make so that if you were targeted with a Teleport spell then you get tagged with some sort of “sickness” that makes it so you do not lose EXP if you die via an NPC for 1 minute. If it is “overpowered” they could just remove it or make a hard counter for it. Thus far they haven’t even with an outcry for something to be done.
Although I’m not an expert since I quit CoH before there was even CoV or PVP but I am fairly sure that the Villains could have countered this behavior. Attacking him with large numbers or finding a villain with an equivalent power to Teleport Twixt to the opposing NPC area. They should have gotten 50 villains together and just rushed him or kept had the server keep an eye on Twixt and warn people from entering that zone while he was there.
For me – this is exactly what makes PVP cool. There was a rogue on the Andorhal PVP server for World of Warcraft who was also considered “Socially unacceptable” in that he played a rogue and sat stealth in major towns, stunning people and ganking all day long. Many people cried foul and it wasn’t until 100’s of rogues took up the same task that they eventually changed how the stealth system worked.
There ARE exploits in games though that ARE game breaking. Such as finding and exploiting NPC pathing so that they cannot protect lower level players or finding holes in the environment so that you can shoot people from behind walls. These are griefing examples that infuriate me and SHOULD be punished.
Since this was in the context of the game and smack right in the middle of a PVP zone… it’s awesome. Viva la Twixt!
On a side note… look how bad-ass he looked doing it. At one point the camera zooms to the other side of the bridge and you see a whole crap load of health bars of villains… like they were obviously trying to gang up and beat him and just couldn’t do it.
video – http://videos.nola.com/times-picayune/2009/06/computer_game_threat.html
Forgot to add… reminds me of Fansy the Famous Bard – forgot about him!
http://www.notaddicted.com/fansythefamous.php
it’s funny how u guys manage to argue for half an hour when all of u are saying the same thing about old school games.
Hey Alon,
So I know your not big on story in games, tons of dialouge and the like…and I generally always agree with most of what you say, but I’ve always disagreed with you on this. I prefer the story etc…as long as there’s a decent mix of good story and gameplay, I’m generally hooked.
So recently…I broke out the old 3DO. (Yea thats right…I got one)
and played Slayer. For those of you that have never heard of it, it’s basicly a first person dungeon crawler. There is ZERO story. But a cool feature it has, is that it randomly creates new levels, everytime you play. All you do, is kill shit, the find gold key and find the exit to move on to the next level. After 10 to 20 levels, you’ll fight a boss. Save the charecter you made, level his ass up, and just keep playing. I was 13 when I had my 3DO. I played Slayer ALL the time.
So I spent some time playing it today, and I was like “Wow..this is actually just as much fun today, as it was 13 years ago” I can’t say very many games do that for me anymore. I’ve felt like I’ve become such a jader gamer over the years. So as I’m playing this game, I beat it, and the ending is of course…well..there really is no ending. Then it hit me… I was like “wow..this game has ZERO story and I could care less” I just…enjoy playing it.
I’ll probably put it all away, and not play it again for another 5 years or so, and hopefully have the same experience again with it.
I guess my point is….well some people do go WAY overboard with the old school stuff just for the sake of being “old school”
Sometimes it is nice to remind yourself of where you came from to help you better understand where your going.
Playing it today made me realize how different games are today. I like both for the different things they offer.
But the future is what scares me. To me, Nintendo has ruined videogames forever. I guess if anyone has the right to destroy gaming it’s them. Now everyone has to rip off their wacky controller and try to make us all flail around like monkies while we play a game. I’m sorry but when I’m up at 2 am gaming, I’m not intrested in jumpin around and swinging my arms around like a retard.
I just wanna play a game.
Now Microsoft has to take it a step further with Natal, let’s talk to a “person” in the game as if you we’re talkin to someone is real life. I think the people behind the games are missing the point. People piss me off all damn day long, the last thing I want to do when I get home, is replicate that experience.
I fear this generation of consoles may be the last generation I take part in if this is the so called “future” of gaming.
The game it self is in no way bad it is all ea’s fault. If u ever get into a match it is actually a very fun experience. the game is also visually amazing for an xbla game. The title of this article is misleading it should be FUCK EA U FUCKED ME OVER ON ANOTHER GREAT GAME.
also ted sux
I for one <3 Puzzle Bobble and have played the hell out of it!
I played a version in Japan where the center was removed and you could shoot onto the opposing player’s side. Then all of a sudden you would do something and the screen would magically clear, destroying the other player. Oh, the memories.
Lulz, FPS on a console. You all deserve it if you buy an FPS and it’s not Halo or Gears of War. Mouse and keyboard ftw.
Yah, EA suport consist of douche-bagery. Ive had a lot of problems in Skate2. Plus The fact that you have to sign into the “EA nation” is a total pain in the ass, But maybe it was necessary for user created graphics…?
What other reasons do they have to use their own servers?
I don’t think it has anything to do with user created graphics. Look at Halo 3. All of that is done on the LIVE servers which then has the ability to connect to the bungie.net system. All of the online play and matchmaking and everything is all on LIVE.
I think EA just wants more control over all of their games similar to how Blizzard is not including LAN play in StarCraft 2 nor Diablo 3.
They are done by Monty Oum, the same guy who did the Haloid (Halo Metroid) action fan movies (which were also pretty kick ass).
I believe he was hired by Midway.
Midway, lols.
Whoever this guy is, he is brilliant. He isn’t just good at animation, but the choreography and the sequencing is brilliant. There is way more story in these videos than a lot of video game cut-scenes and he is just using action, i love them.
There is a “Making of” Video somewhere on game trailers for his Halo-Metriod movie where he shows how he does a lot of this crap.
I didn’t like Dead Fantasy 3 that much, but I guess that is just compared to the first 2. I know he has shown previews for Dead Fantasy 4 and 5 at anime conventions… but yeah… once we get the rest of the story it’ll be all good.
I am still kind of hoping that he’ll add a Final Fantasy 6 version of Terra who turns all Dragon Ball Z like with her Esper Morphing ftw!
It’s pretty interesting because he points out all the stuff that we don’t notice. He basically admits that half the stuff he does get’s half assed (understandably) because he works on these alone or with very little help but the blurring and movement is so fast that we don’t know it. It’s basically stuff you would only notice if you slowed everything down frame by frame.
I would find it for ya – but Gametrailers, youtube, etc are all blocked at work from me
so much sim bashing… so sad…
Did you figure this out? I wasn’t to change the dimensions of my uploaded images (thumbnail, medium and large) but don’t want to have to re upload them 1 by 1 to have them re sized by WP. I’m looking for a plugin or code to add to my theme functions to rebuild the image cash.
-Cheers!
Dude, I was watching the ustream last night for the SFIV finals, it was fucking intense meng. By the end there were over 22k viewers watching like on ustream, it was nuts.
also, I don’t recall Wong picking Rufus when fighting Daigo. I know when he played everybody else he was playing rufus but int he final matchup He picked Able first and lost that game, then he was straight to Balrog and won that game making it 1 and 1. Then Daigo won the next game, and then Wong won the next 2 to win the match which caused the reset.
either way, it was fucking amazing to watch.
HA, this is awesome. The Air-Hogs are typically about $30, you can get more advanced versions for about $50 that will go up and down, turn left and right, and push forward. I DID see a special edition version that is exclusive to Toys ‘R’Us that is like the $50 version but runs $40. Not too shabby. Stay away from the knockoff $20 versions because they don’t last as long or come with replacement parts. (the airhogs come with a few extra goodies.)
Yeah, I was working on a freelance project and had the ustream open throughout most of the 3rd day. Watched the MVC tournament and on. It was pretty awesome.
I didn’t like how Justin Wong would celebrate all of his victories though… it seemed bad sportsmanship. I was pretty glad to see him lose. Again.
That said – the matchup was pretty intense. The Balrog switch was nice and it was awesome to see it go to the last set in the last match. That said – UStream Viewers are pretty crappy in the chat room.
Wak: Yeah, I am actually somewhat stumped as to how I feel about the character switching and console character dilemma. I kinda wish that there was a world-wide understanding of what we are all playing. Japan only plays arcade version of SF4 with no character changing, while everyone else plays the console version with character changing on loss… Not only that, Japan is at a total disadvantage when it comes to console specific characters. I think that Japan has to start playing the home version and that is seriously a lot to ask of them. article time…
PS: Yeah, Justin is really a freaking cocky turd. He is really good, but needs to be less of a weenie.
When I was watching over the weekend there were a couple people talking about the console character dilemna. I am no expert on the topic at all, I actually just started watching. But, it seems to me that there should be no problem with people playing console characters.
Capcom put the characters in the console version, and the tournaments are running on the PS3 (stupid that they aren’t using the Xbox 360). If they are running a tournament on consoles, all characters are open game the way I see it. People from Japan just need to play the console version. Is it really too much to ask? I mean, they have the 360 and PS3 in Japan too.
As far as character switching, i thought that was kind of weird. I mean, most people end up just sticking with one character throughout the entire tournament it is weird when you see a person switch between matches and even in the middle of a match.
Episode 7! Devious bastards!
Well, either way – still can’t listen since it’s not available on iTunes yet. I have to remember to check on Wed instead of Monday or Tuesday.
Remind me if I am mistaken (or don’t this is just a comment). Wasn’t Crackdown the game where if you pre-ordered it, you got an entry into the Halo 3 beta, or something?
Indeed, Crackdown was the game that everybody call “Halo 3 Beta” online for several months. That was a significant factor in not just game sales just to get the beta, but increasing interest in the game in general, which increased game sales.
Elitist. Get a life.
You know you can use a mic right. It’s called team communication. It works.
TITS!
Josh, why are you wasting your time playing with strangers? L4D is only really enjoyable when played with 3 friends. Do you have 3 friends?
I don’t get it, you say people suck at L4D and you can’t even name half the maps, also I hate teammates that think they’re better than you and show off ON YOUR OWN team.
ugh.
Funny stuff. Ahh, only if they’d listen the first 383,291 times.
I appreciate the feedback from everybody and I hope Josh will too, even though most sounds pretty negative. Hopefully you guys will read some other articles on the site as well and see that not all of us are as negative as Josh online, at least not all the time.
Using handguns: if you want to conserve ammo. Use wherever possible. If you shoot one single zombie on his own with you main weapon, you either should be right next to/near an ammo pile or THEN you’re an asshole.
Using auto-shotguns: assault rifles are the newbie weapon. Auto-shotguns are necessities if you know a Tank’s coming and you’ll be taking it on at close-range.
You would be better of putting the effort that you put into this article, into getting a life.
Actually no, games were actually designed with the purpose of keeping cretins such as yourself away from the general populace.
I love it! Each one of your comments, negative or positive, are a golden gem that touches me in my special place.
@NamelessTed. Proofread Josh’s articles in future before he posts them online, then we may be inclined to check out the rest of your website.
@Kry-Vin, I am actually pretty awful proof reader. My grammar is decent but outside of that I am not a good writer.
Brute’s Chargin’ His Lazurs!!!!
Did you ever think for a moment that maybe not everyone wanted to play the way you play?
Maybe it isn’t that they suck, but that they don’t work well with you?
Half the stuff you say is purely based on personal opinion rather than what valve would want to portray.
They are changing the ‘alert the horde’ events because of how you and so many others play “90% of the game”. In a corner, or glitching like a newb. So don’t point the finger or act like you are anything special, because all you’ve done is lost your temper and starting ranting.
“A story told by a fool, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
Yes, you’re right. You can play l4d however you want, and crouching in the corner is just like glitching.
Don’t be an idiot.
Well played, sir. These are some good looking recommendations. While I may eventually try these out, for the moment, I’m enjoying Fallout 3 as it is. Any thoughts about the “ethics” of mods, and whether or not they are considered “cheats”? i.e. You’re not playing the game the way the designers intended? In this case, Bethesda has given away mod tools for that explicit purpose, so how does that fit into it? I heard Jeff Green (former Editor in Chief of Computer Gaming World, now a game designer at EA) talking on some podcast about how he used to question decisions that designers made in a “why didn’t they think of that” kind of way. Now that he is on the design side, he’s realized that EVERYTHING has been thought of.
As far as mods for Fallout 3 go, there are definitely ones that are total cheats and others that just change things around a bit. There are actually a lot of popular mods in the community that make the game significantly harder to play. When a developer like Bethesda releases GECK or similar modding tool the community is going to make tweaks to make the game play differently.
I love the game the way Bethesda made it, and I played it through the first time without mods. But playing while playing through the second time playing around with different mods is a lot of fun for me, and the reason i got the game on PC and not Xbox 360
I bet you’re the first to rage quit if your team starts losing because “they all suck at the game” and it’s only the first level. Hate folks like you.
You should put all that negative energy in perhaps training people when they appear to be struggling or seem new to the concept. Especially in Coop, when you can take your time or even vote down the difficulty.
What the heck ramsey is the deal with Poster5? Fields of flowers and teddy bear ornaments standard issue in the future war?
The green needs to be darker
“molesting woodland creatures”
You know, I can honestly see Ted poking animals in bad places with sticks as a child.
Awesome pics, but LELOUCH F-T-FUCKING-W!
I watched Code Geass on YouTube and I was hooked.
Keep going Josh, I want to know how Rich infiltrated the Scientologists and assassinated the second Tom Cruise clone.
i herd he is also worthless
You are absolutely correct Puppetpallmich, he is worthless… and he’ll never be a Cardinal!
Puppetpallmich, I “herd” that your spelling was worthless. Thank you for confirming that.
Rich has to at least be a Baron. Or a LV 8 Hermit Sage.
yeah, this guy seems to be a complete fucking moron, seriously. Why the fuck would it have taken him so many fucking tries? He would try something, and it would work, and then he would do something else the next time. How does that make any fucking sense at all?
This is exactly why I hate it when people talk about this game. They think of all these crazy things to do and think it is really cool that they can write whatever they want when in reality it is fucking retarded and a stupid shitty puzzle game.
It’s true
I herd Ted is a gay
That also might be true Ted
I agree with the “Ted sucks” tag only
I agree with all previous statements cause I love ta Halos.
I don’t get it.
Oh man, what a tease.
An episode we can’t hear.
Hey look, a haiku!
The pics with the glasses are definitely my favorites!
And a broken link…
Wow, Ted! You sound like a royal prick! He was simply screwing with the game to see where it would go. I bought this game and I enjoy doing exactly the same thing. “Hmmm… That worked, I wonder if this will…” That’s the point of the fucking game. To do crazy shit.
While it’s goal as a puzzle game might not be so creative (get object x) it’s way of empowering you to get object x is incredible. It’s an entire fucking interactive dictionary. It’s far from shitty (even though the controls are wonky and the AI can be frustrating, it’s still very well designed and put together) and even further from retarded (let’s see you make a game engine that allows the user to create any object and have it interact uniquely with any other object). Maybe you should try playing the game instead of trolling.
Who’s this Ted fellow??
The necessity to buy a new disc for an upgrade does not strike me as unusual. All the iterations of the original Street Fighter II did so, and current hits like Guitar Hero and Rock Band are the same. No one is being forced to make a purchase.
Though the domestic/console releases of the game are only eight months old, the original coin-op release occurred in Summer 2008, so this update is about on schedule for a typical Capcom fighter.
Thanks for getting the embedded video working!
I think Inafune was observing the lack of innovation in other TGS displays, suggesting that Capcom was here to save the day. Surely something was lost in translation, but I think the video’s title, “Kenji Inafune dumps on TGS”, is more accurate a sentiment than “Japanese game industry is dead”.
I should have added this to the article, but with DLC and, I figured any enhancement/balance to the game would be some $20 add-on. Also, a feature on Gamespot essentially answered all of my questions why they were doing a re-release.
I think $20 exceeds the limit for DLC, no?
Do you have a link to the Gamespot feature?
I could be mistaken, but I believe Penny Arcade Adventures: Episode 1 was $20.
From the Gamespot article:
“Ono explained that when Street Fighter IV was originally being developed, certain aspects of the game code weren’t laid out in such a way as to support the features that are being added in Super Street Fighter IV. While Capcom had initially considered making SSFIV’s content a download pack of some kind, it became clear that just tacking the new content onto the old game wasn’t going to be possible.”
URL: http://tgs.gamespot.com/story/6230625/super-street-fighter-iv-impressions-first-look
When you boil almost any any game (especially action titles) down to their core functionality, it becomes a matter of pressing the right buttons at the right time. This was true of the “learning to keyboard” exercises we had in grade school and hasn’t changed much since then.
That said, I’ve played only the demo version of Arkham Asylum so can’t comment on how rhythmic this particular title is. But I suspect that it’s not the only game to have gussied up the feature of the QTE, even if an earlier draft of the combat system made it more apparent.
BTW, I think your post got double-pasted. And what does the opening line mean, “Gameinformer.com went live”? Are you referring to its new design?
Compared to brawlers, Batman’s combat feels much more fluid. With a title like God of War or Devil May Cry, combat is much more twitch-based than Batman. The rhythm in Batman comes from much more apparent on-screen images. When you play Batman you’ll see what I mean (and you should play Batman because it is fantastic).
“Among the you fans,” huh? Interesting use of language. And by use I mean butchering.
Huh? I’m a little confused. You are going to play the game only for an hour, but play until you finish it? Do you mean you are going to write something after every hour?
I’m so frickin excited for this game. I just need to get a Wii so that I can play it. I should also probably get a PS2 and the kingdom hearts games… Jobio, oh Jobio, wherefore art thou, Jobio?
I’ll play the same game for an hour each week, then review my experiences that hour. I’ll be reviewing Too Human that way until I finish the game. I’ll probably review something else afterward, but I have no idea yet as this project may take a long time.
Cory, you are so very, very welcome. I’m happy to be writing for the site, I’ve always wanted to do something like this but was too lazy to get my ass off the ground and start my own site. I won’t be posting near as much as it seems Mr. Bevier will be (if he maintains his breakneck speed) but I’ll be positing my theorems on games and the like as often as I can. So thank YOU for the opportunity. Funny aside: My recaptcha to post this comment is “huntress manurings”. That just rings comedic to me.
Okay, so I finally got the game. I did not realise until now that this level in question is in the FIRST world. But really, this guy is terrible at Scribblenauts. I beat this level on my first try.
Swatter kills the bee.
Dropping Poison in the lake kills the fish.
Having a Jetpack will get you across the lake.
Done.
The article just makes the game sound harder than it really is.
I think the green needs to be darker.
Dammit… how could I have missed the green again? FML
I don’t consider the Brood Mother to be a “topless” boss so much as I consider her to be a “OH-FUCKING-JESUS-H-JUMPED-UP-CHRIST-ON-A-BICYCLE-WHAT-THE-HELL-IS-THAT” boss.
Oh, and the answer is no, we don’t need them.
Well, it’s better than the ball-sac boss at the end of the original Half-life.
I agree with you on the Warden’s Keep bit, seems a little dodgy at best.
As for the “free if purchased new” DLC though, I actually don’t really mind this. Obviously, it encourages new game sales and is yet another tactic we’re beginning to see developers use in order to gain ground against GameStop and the like. I think this is a good thing for a number of reasons…
First, if this proves successful, hopefully publishers will see it as a viable alternative to the strictly digital distribution model (something I think we can all agree is a Bad Thing™).
Secondly, I think this makes the “well people sell used cars so why should used games be any different” argument make more sense. I never liked this argument because a used car is inherently less valuable than a new car, the used car will have wear and tear, possible damage, mileage, etc… things a new vehicle would not have. Whereas there is less justification for the used game industry, given that the used product is (for all intents and purposes) *IDENTICAL* to the new product, except cheaper. The tactic they’re using adds value to the new game, rewarding customers purchasing new over used by devaluing the used product. It’s a brilliant tactic in my mind, I think it’ll make a lot of people reconsider buying a used copy when the brand new copy is only $5 more expensive and has additional content.
Furthermore, I can get behind this because they’re not requiring people to pre-order the game just to get this content. It’s available to anyone that purchases the game new, whether they pre-order or purchase 3 months after release. That’s a really great thing in my mind because I’m on the fence about this game and would not consider pre-ordering it. It’s nice to know that if I do later decide to buy it, I won’t be missing out on content just because I didn’t take that initial leap of faith.
I do understand why they offer the free content for new copies of the game but I am still on the fence about it. Of course I am connected to the internet and have LIVE and will be able to get content part of me still hesitates to support this delivery system for the occasion that you might not have the internet for whatever reason.
The publisher is basically saying that content X and Y are part of a new game, but you also need internet to get it. If you don’t have internet then you don’t get the content that your are technically already paying for in a new copy.
Sure, MOST people that have the xbox 360 have internet, but i still hesitate to support this type of distribution system. Of course this is coming from the guy that fully supports Games on Demand and has already purchased Mass Effect, Civilization Revolution and plenty of XBLA games online to it seems strange even to myself that I complain about free content over LIVE.
I have basically two main reasons I disagree with the sentiments expressed in the article.
First, I think if something can be cut from a game and have the experience be complete without it, it probably didn’t need to be there in the first place. Outside of the bumped up level cap in Fallout 3’s Broken Steel I have yet to find a piece of DLC that made me think the game was actually more complete because of it. If a game can get its point across and feel complete without a section, you’re probably not missing anything by having it cut.
The second problem I have is one of entitlement. Who cares if they’re holding back content to sell it seprately? It’s certainly their right to do so. If you don’t think a game is worth the price without the bonus content just don’t buy the game. What did you do to deserve those extra missions? What charity are you running where you feel like you should be handed bonus armor? How the world works is people put prices on things and others decide whether those things are worth the asking price. Look at the iPhone app store. If you try to charge more than $3 for something it won’t sell. This didn’t happen because of a grand scheme by apple. It happened because that’s what the market decided.
So yeah. You’re free to want some freebies with your games, but try not to come off as entitled to those freebies. There’s a reason nobody sells Horse Armor anymore.
-Wes
@Wes, I appreciate the response.
I agree with you that if something is cut from a game and it is still a complete game without that content then they really didn’t need it to begin with. Content gets cut from games all the time because it doesn’t need to be there. But the developers don’t take that content that was cut and then charge extra for it on the same fucking day that the game releases.
There is a difference between cutting content because it doesn’t add to the game and cutting the content and then just selling as additional content. There is also a difference between this and something like Broken Steel. Fallout 3 was complete, and the game was released. After that a team at Bethesda continued to make content and Broken Steel was one of the DLCs that was released. It isn’t like they made Broken Steel before the game shipped but just didn’t include it.
As far as entitlement goes, I don’t feel entitled to anything “extra”. But when I pay $60 for a game, I do feel entitled to the entire game. I was a fan of the new Prince of Persia but I refuse to purchase the Epilogue DLC that released which is supposed to be the “real” ending and also includes a new ability. When a company ships a game, it needs to be complete.
I disagree about Broken Steel. I barely scraped the surface of side-missions and by the time I finished the game I had maxed out my experience level. There’s no way anyone in any of their testing could have ever considered this acceptable. The game felt incomplete. Broken Steel’s bonus content I could take or leave, but the level cap increase is something that’s fundamental to the core game that wasn’t included. That’s why I consider it something that shouldn’t have been bonus content.
Contrast this with Prince of Persia, where the game felt complete when I finished the game. I didn’t buy the epilogue until the sale last weekend because I didn’t think I needed it to complete the story. It turns out I was right, because the Epilogue really did feel like something that’s there for people who want more rather than a missing piece of the puzzle. The marketing may not make it out like that, but hey, it’s their job to make you feel like you need something.
And again, if the developer decides to charge for something that isn’t integral to the game – whether they do it on release or later on – your $60 shouldn’t automatically entitle you to it (but, kind of ironically, in this case it actually does). If a game isn’t worthwhile without DLC people won’t buy the game and developers will stop charging for it. Developers know this, and that’s why DLC is rarely worth the price to people who don’t already love a game.
Hands down, the worst DLC I can think of is the Resident Evil 5 vs mode. Not because your $60 should entitle you to a vs mode, but because putting even the tiniest barrier (in this case, $5) to an online component of a game developers are practically guaranteeing that it will die a quick death. I could be wrong, but if you turn on RE5 right now and play it in vs is anyone actually playing?
I have to totally agree with you as far as the level cap goes on Fallout 3. I have the game on PC and used a mod to increase the level cap before Broken Steel released, then I payed for the DLC as I have for all the DLC on Fallout 3.
So when will we see a Golgocast episode 8?
I found this article before I had Scribblenauts and briefly skimmed over it. Last night after getting to and playing this level, I had to search to find your article again and read it thoroughly. You are simply too funny. And it’s sad how many people will get this game, and never truly know ‘how’ to play!!!
I hope you do like it and find a reason to stick with it. However, I can see how you might not.
Once/if you die, you might be annoyed. There seems to be no consequence to death, except for the long time it takes for you to be revived. Does the lack of consequence help make the game more fun, or just pointless?
I’m waiting for you to decide.
I agree on the fact that something like this could take off. However I’m not too sure that I’d enjoy a lot of games like this to come out. Quality is better than quantity. I mean yes definitely have other companies look into the idea, but don’t take it too far ya know?
I agree John. I don’t think I could handle too many 100+ hour games like this a year. The routine is amazing, but routine can easily be turned into a chore. (see most mmos)
From the standpoint of someone who has access to neither of these games, the only differences I can see between the two are the art style and development teams, though both consist of members of the DotA crew. I would certainly love to hear more about the differences between both games, perhaps, from someone who hasn’t CLEARLY already decided which is the better of the two. I guess what I’m asking for is one of those ridiculous breakdown sheets that show the differences between both games.
I’m pretty much divided on the built-in voice chat. On one hand, it’s way faster than typing, and all the acronyms from DotA can be a pain to learn, on the other hand, I really don’t feel like subjecting myself to the sound of all the mouth-breathers that generally permeate online gaming, their typing and relatively poor grammar skills were quite enough, thank you. I hope and pray for a mute option.
Also, I realize that the use of the word “fag” as a negative is going to come up while playing almost any sort of online game but that’s because those people a fucking neanderthals. I expect better from you Golgotron.
Don’t be a fag.
Lightsource, I completely agree with you. If gaming is ever going to develop, must we insist of using profanity while playing; or even stoop to use it in out commercials?
Note: This is mostly a comment about this add:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxBdcdKVm2U
God DAMMIT MAKE IT EASIER FOR PPL TO DOWNLOAD!!!
http://golgotron.com/podcast/GolgoCastEpisode9.mp3
There save as…
sigh amateurs
I think Josh and I might have to do a joint review of the single player of MW2 this weekend but I just want to add a comment onto this article. I can understand where you are coming from as far as progress in the FPS world goes and Puppet seems to feel the same way but I feel like I need to defend it in some way.
You first have to realize that Doom was the first FPS to ever be made. In the first 8 years developers did all sorts of things, some of them good and some bad. By the time Halo came out the FPS had evolved quite a lot from its original form. Since then developers seems to know what works and what doesn’t so the changes are smaller things that they tweak to get just right.
I think you can observe similar trends in other areas like mp3 players. When they first came out there were all sorts of different mp3 players and then there was the iPod. Since the first ipod, the device has changed drastically. But since the addition of the click wheel the changes to the ipod have been extremely minor by either adding more capacity, slightly better screen, better battery, or making the device smaller and smaller. All of this has been predictable.
But just because the changes have been predictable and relatively minor doesn’t mean that the newest iPod isn’t the best on the market, because it clearly is. In the same way, Modern Warfare 2 pretty much has everything perfected (at least in the single player experience) and is not just one of the best game in the FPS genre, or even this generation, but one of the best and most complete experiences of any video game I have played.
When thinking of a benchmark game there are only two that come to mind. One game that changed what I thought was possible on console games and one that got me in fist fights with my friends. The first was golden eye (n64) it was the first game I had played that really had some 3d scale to it. It introduced new elements to the game play and controls that I had previously never used on a console. It also made me hate the golden gun.
Then there is my favorite game of all time. Mario Kart 64…… the game responsible for Kit punching Marcus in the face, me breaking off a fan blade and watching it hit Joe in the balls during a victory celebration, me being grounded for not doing homework, and my first ever single elimination Mario cart tournament championship.
To me this game was simply perfect. It was fun, simple and put a smile on my face ear to ear every time I pick up the controller.
P.S. thanks Cory. now I have to buy a fucking ps2 so I can play Shadow
of the Colossus
I don’t know how eager those 600,000+ will be to line Microsoft’s pockets with cash again after being banned. It seems that this is more of an opportunity for Sony or Nintendo to attract some new customers.
I thought most of those folks would buy PS3 slims since they probably thought Microsoft screwed them, that’s the way crooks think you know, everyone is always out to get them no matter what they did to deserve it LOL.
Now if it was Sony that banned a bunch of PS3’s, the media would be raising holy Hell about all this saying it’s the death of Sony and blah blah blah. If people were smart, they’d drop microshaft and get a real system : PS3!!!
I think it is safe to assume that most people that got their Xbox banned won’t just go get a PS3 for a couple of reasons. First, they have a history of playing Xbox 360 games which includes game saves, friends lists, and achievement points. They may also have purchased XBLA games as well.
They probably also won’t purchase a PS3 because there is no ability to mod the system and play backup games on the device so it is most likely that the modder would simply purchase the Xbox 360 again.
Red ring of death, banning consoles, banning gamertags, that’s the only way they can survive. They ban me and I’ll play online with my ps3. Yes my ps3, you know the one that doesn’t overheat, charge for online, comes with free wifi, oh yeah AND a blueray player. Good job microshaft, what’s that you say you got Halo? And gears of war? Halo is massively overated and gears is fun for about an hour, one hour. with uncharted 1 and 2 halo looks like shit, and not the cool corny shit just plain shit. Uncharted series and/ or killzone2 make gears look like dark sector(not a good thing)
the download is just episode ten! wtf… lol
I just can’t possibly keep this comment clean. Microsoft is officially full of dildos and dickheads.
Sincerely,
Homer Simpson
ladies and gentlemen all you have to do is buy a new three sixty gut it put the banned one inside the new case return it simple as that no cost to you in the hole for microsoft
Sorry John. The download is now linked to the proper episode 11 in all of its shitty 11Khz sample rate quality.
Woke up to:
This console has been banned for violations of the Terms of Use. To protect the Xbox LIVE service and its members, Microsoft does not provide details about console bans. There is no recourse for Terms of Use violations.
its worth it though.
spend 200 bucks getting your DVD drive flashed and than you can play backup games for free, 5 games for free and you saved yourself enough cash to buy a new 360.
so i doubt many of these people would go over to the ps3 because than they would have less to work with and forced to pay for them.
and there not cheap, why ps3 games are more expensive than 360 ones when the 360 version is normally superior is beyond me.
hahahaha ps3 FTW
Seems unlikely that people owning banned consoles would switch to a ps3: they would have to actually buy their games, which they are not willing to do…
It seems that most of the people who own a dodgy 360, play on Xbox Live, so they’ve had to go out and buy a new or used console that hasn’t been modified. Why would they want to switch to a PS3? The 360 clearly has the best range of games (I’m not a fanboy as I own a 360, PS3, Wii, DS and PSP to name a few…). I wonder how many 360 owners own a PS3? Most (if not all) will just go out and buy a replacement.
Now do te same without the bikini and a PS3 instead.
I very much doubt that anyone who picks up another 360 to replace their banned system would make the decision to mod it again. Keeping in mind that they’ll have to pay for their games no matter what (if they want to play online). The ps3’s value in terms of an overall hardware/software (120gig standard hard drive, blu-ray, trophies, netflix, facebook, etc.) package has shot up since the last time these 360 buyers have had to make a console purchase. It’s also worth mentioning that there’s plenty of AAA quality greatest hits exclusives that 360 players have never touched for $20-40. I’m not going to think for a minute that everyone or even most will switch to playstation, but there will be plenty who do. Microsoft had to do what they did to make sure they didn’t fail like the dreamcast, but their market share (Xbox live subscriptions) will shrink as a result.
lol ms is funny they know like we know when you make a system like the 360 which is damn near a cpu there isnt much they can do that why they messed up already banning people who dont have modded systems2 of mine are and i still wont turn on my P.eice o S.hit 3 lol but yea you can just gut it and do it over give it a week or so and we will get around the bann they know that why they did it when they did. byt i still love ms no matter what they have every rite to bann me for the online sevice but you going to bann me bann me all the way dicks lol
Microsoft, are you stupid?!?!
You’re not gunna gain customers, escpecially with all the hype around the PS3 Slim, everyone’s gunna sell their games cheap on ebay, and they’re all gunna buy ps3 slims, especially with ur RROD at 60% at ALL Xbox 360 Models compared to 0.01% for ONLY 60GB Models!
Sony, go on, hit em hard why got da chance, ur smacked nintendo, during the N64’s, GameCube’s and Wii’s rein, do it to microsoft now = P
You even knocked out apple in 1997, sega twice!, activision’s blizzard somewhere after 1995 and a few more = P Oh yeah and especially Atari KO!
To be Honest, even if someone’s gamertag was “Ir4pe cH1LdR3n xXx”, as long as they didn’t sound like they’re 7 on the mic, I could care less.
Ps3 Yea all the hype, they dropped price and are losing out there arse. So the hype doesn’t matter when Natal will replace all of those sales in the matter of one month. By the second month they will surpase and hit wii type sales. Not saying there going to close in on wii, that would be a hugh hurdle but the psturd, not a problem.
Been slamming those bunslammers for years now. You have a good couple of months and ps3 Fans are not used to having more sales, so they come out of left field running there mouths. when they know natal is going to own there arse.
PS3=fail….
“Roncore” is teh stupiderest gamert4g evAr
Stupiderest or Epic? I choose the latter.
Well, fuck Belisle… it’s about time it happened. lulz.
A very sneaky way to avoid criticism which didn’t wash very well with the majority of people, I’m not to sure what the point is since it’s a kind of false trophy to have record sales but just because you forced some of your customers to go out and buy again.
Why isn’t this hosted? Makes me sad.
For download I mean.
Nobody cares about your opinion of our gamertags. Kill yourself.
My favourite gamertag I’ve seen so far is Epic Mustard.
Also, there was one that looked weird at first, but upon further inspection, it spelled out Hockey Night in Canada, just spelled differently somehow.
Quick note: DotA currently has 95 heroes, so HoN has a little more time to catch up. My hope is Storm Panda and Windrunner get ported soon. Those are by far my favorite heroes.
I think the voip is amazingly implemented as well as incredibly useful. The voip has a pretty high compression rate, and it adds a little base, so most voices that you would normally find annoying aren’t really. Also, Chinese people sound hilarious with it.
As for which is better, the only advantage DotA currently has is hero selection. HoN is almost a re-skin of DotA playwise.
Two things that haven’t been mentioned yet:
Lots of little things have been fixed thanks to the engine. For example, AOE effects in DotA all happen in a box shape (this is just how Warcraft 3 is hard-coded to work).
The lack of lag is also quite noticeable. In DotA you would sometimes even get a good ping the the host and still lag (we’re talking under 100ms and still lagging sometimes.) HoN is just a lot better about this for some reason that can’t place. Pretty much if you’re ping is under 175, you can play very smoothly. Anything under 150 is unnoticeable.
And LoL does blow. Hard.
I have not been impressed with a single multi-player oriented FPS since Tribes 2. Nothing has come close in my mind. (Well, Forgotten Empire Legions, but that’s a T2 clone.)
Nothing of note has been added to the genre in over a decade; Halo perfected what I would call the standard meat-and-potatoes FPS and improvements since have been marginal at best. Master Chief starred in the last FPS worth buying.
Maybe I’m old, but the genre started to lose its luster around the time of Quake.
I sure hope they do, Call of Duty is a franchise I don’t want to see milked to death.
COD is a franchise being milked to death! By Activision though. Because IW was good and Treyarch was decent and now they’re having a third team? I want them to just make a game called ‘Call of Duty Muliplayer’ and it just the multiplayer game which includes ALL (including DLC) maps in all previous Call of Duty games and they release maps every 3 months. Because I really don’t care about the story any more! And most people will agree that they only play the story because its there and they won’t play it again after they’ve completed it. And Spec Ops is all right but I could easily live without it and Nazi Zombies, well I could (which I did) just buy Left 4 Dead 2 instead. But if they make a decent story then the arcade mode is a very good addition.
With Activision looking for a new Call Of Duty team it does seem likely that IW will go off on their own. If IW want to do a different game then this new studio will work alongside Treyarch to keep the COD series rolling out every year.
Activision needs to pay for what they have tried to do to hardcore gamers recently (dumping all kinds of new IPs while keeping games that will probably only get one or two sales, trying to control a good developer and make them do something they know is not favored by their market, etc.). Having their biggest developer choose to go independent would almost kill them instantly, forcing them to go in new and untested directions, basically sending the entire company back to square 1 (think: instead of Spider-man 3 and Spider-man:Web of Shadows, we would have games that were as fun as Spider-man 2, minus for the balloon fetch quests)
Infinity Ward, if you are reading this comment, I am almost certain that I can speak for most gamers when I say “Viva la revolution!”
i sincerely doubt that will happen as IW actually like activision and seem to get along with them very well.
i would like to see IW be picked up by either sony or M$ because MW2 proved to me they have skill but they were really rushed for that game.
given a massive budget and plenty of time i really think they could turn out a real hitter. quality wise not sales wise, MW2 in quality wise is lacking detail and polish.
and as if activision would let it happen, MW2 has net them 550M am i correct?
i mean i dont know about you, but if a company was netting me 550M i would do everything in my power to keep them, and everything in my power to make their life a living hell if they left.
550M is more than activision will probably see with all there IPs combined.
Did she approve this picture?
Awesome Hypercard reference. I used to use that shit to make animations for my reports. FURK YEAR!
HI THERE STO[P COMPARING APLLES TOO PIZZA XBOX 360 IS NOT PORTABLE AND NINTENDO DSI HAS ONLY A 133 MHZ CPU 16 MB OF RAM AND 256 MB OF FLASH MEMORY LETS COMPARE THE PSP GO WITH LIKE THE PSP 3000 THE PSP GO CPU TOPS AT 480 MHZ CPU VS 333 MHZ CPU 64 MB OF RAM VS 32 MB OF RAM AND PSP 3000 HAS ZERO STORAGE YOU HAVE TOO USE THE UMD VS THE 16 GB PFLASH MEMORY STORAGE CAPACITY LETS KEEP GAMING CONSOLE APPLES TOO APPLES OF THE PRDACSSORS AND NOT MAKE FALSE CLAMES OR OR COMAPARE TOO NON STANDARD CONSOLES IN FIFFERNT CKLASSES THATS LIKE COMPARING EARTH HUMMAN GAMMING CONSOLE TOO THE BORG CUBE GAMING CONSOLES AT A WHOPPING 5,000,000 TIMES FASTER THEN LIGHT SPEED WELL I SHOULD BUY BORG CONSOLES
I think this came out pretty good. You should give the community a heads up before your next interview and give everyone a chance to submit some questions. 4 guys 1up does reader questions for interviews and it usually works out pretty well. Just a thought, Anyways thanks for all the good insight and entertainment. Keep it up.
I guess mine must be good then because Ive never fallen into ANY of those traps GO ME! And Roncore is the greatest. If you knew Ron his gamertag couldn’t be any better.
He oculd have just deleted that bear after he was finished with it.
You guys should just avoid talking about nodded xboxes in the future. That part made me stop listening.
1. Buying a PS3 in response to getting your system banned doesn’t hurt Microsoft. You already don’t give them money, so why would they care?
2. There is no reason to mod an Xbox other than piracy. It doesn’t allow you to play imports, and indie development requires a live account and unmodded Xbox. The dev kit isn’t illegal, it’s free, and if you want to actually sell your games you probably don’t want to have a hacked system. Whoever it was that gave homebrew as an excuse should have been corrected.
3. If you want support from publishers (money or free games) you probably should avoid telling them that you’re not paying for their games.
4. The guy complaining kind of just sounded like a whiny bitch.
can’t do it, I can not listen to this because of the accent. Its just that annoying. I jumped ahead over half an hour and was so bummed find that you were still doing it.
Josh, how on earth can you hold a shitty nonsensical accent for that long? 
I couldn’t talk with a normal voice, I was even doing it while we weren’t recording. I don’t usually drink. :-p
That said, I couldn’t listen to it either. Sorry guys!
Blue shells…
I hates ‘em. And yeah, as iconic as this game supposedly was, I just can’t understand folks wanting to own it.
Chrono Trigger. Now there’s a game…
I think it comes down to review scores, it may have been the hype foiled by it’s critical response, the RTS complaints may have scared people away maybe.
I love the game personally, I love the world, but there are certainly things I wish were changed, there are things that do need to be polished, and most of all the gameplay doesn’t really reinforce the feeling of being awesome or doing something incredible all the time, I wished they made it more over the top with more variety and simpler RTS elements.
I think it comes down to review scores, it may have been the hype foiled by it’s critical response, the RTS complaints may have scared people away maybe.
I love the game personally, I love the world, but there are certainly things I wish were changed, unfortunately the gameplay doesn’t really reinforce the feeling of being awesome or doing something incredible, I wished they made it more over the top with more variety and simpler RTS elements.
This is a niche game so how could it be expected to do huge numbers. When you make a game that only appeals to a particular demographic, you cannot expect to capitalize on mainstream revenue tracks. The vast majority of the gaming population would have no clue who most of the musical artists in the game are. It is a work that pays homage to heavy metal and its roots. This game was never going to be a blockbuster for that reason alone.
“It almost feels as if you are spinning the game environment around a fixed character rather than navigating the tracks”
That is exactly right. It really does feel more like you’re turning the screen, rather than the kart.
Yeah, it certainly is excellent that nowadays it isn’t enough to simply have voice acting in the game, but you have to have decent voices behind them.
And I also think it is cool that it looks like they’re expanding Joker’s character.
It’s a shame what they did with Yvonne Strahovski’s face though. I mean, in-game.
LOL at quiz master!
if you put poison in the water,
IT”D KILL YOU TOO!
BAHAHAHA FAAAAAIL!!
The Modern Warfare comparisons here are silly. Brutal Legend has good writing and demonstrates a lot of creativity, but it’s nowhere near as polished, well-designed, or immersive as Modern Warfare 2.
The pixar comparison is off as well. Pixar movies are polished to an amazing degree. There isn’t a wasted moment, and thematically everything works well. Brutal Legend feels rushed in some areas and there’s an awful lot of busywork, where Modern Warfare 2 looks at exactly what the player is doing at every moment, and crafts the experience around their emotions. Brutal Legend is a generic Dreamworks cg movie to Modern Warfare 2’s Pixar.
If Modern Warfare 2 was an average game that did nothing to move the medium forward I’d agree with your sentiment, but since it’s not, and since there are countless army games that have come out recently and sold much worse than Brutal Legend (Frontlines, Turning Point, Hour of Victory, etc). I’m not sure there’s an argument here.
I think unique ideas are not purchased as often for a couple of fairly basic reasons:
First, I think people like sticking with genres they know they like, and many of these “unique” games eschew the classic genres. This is a problem for a number of reasons and Brutal Legend is a great example of it… What is the genre? It’s impossible to explain the game in any simple way. It’s part adventure, part platformer, part open world, part RTS, part action/beat-em-up. It doesn’t know what it is and it’s no wonder nobody else does (same goes for Portal, Mirror’s Edge, and a myriad of other games). The easier it is to pigeon-hole a game into a particular genre, the easier it is to describe it and sell it. Therein lies the problem, unique games are almost *always* hard to describe, that’s what makes them unique.
Secondly, I think price is a major factor. People are far less likely to take risks on franchises that are unproven to them, and for many people $60 is a fairly big risk. Why spend $60 on something that you *might* like when you can spend $60 on something that you *know* you’ll like? This is one of the reasons we have such a ridiculous number of sequels year over year.
I’ve always felt that unique games would do a lot better if they were priced lower. I’ve felt the de facto $60 price point of games is kind of ridiculous some times. There are varying price points for DVDs, CDs, books, etc… but games pretty much all come in at $60. I get that for big-budget titles or popular franchises, but I think it would do the more unique, art-house type games a favor to have a lower introductory price point that might entice people to take a risk now and then.
Fact is, most people that buy games *aren’t* core gamers. They’re looking for something that’s familiar to them and easy to understand.
Try an experiment some time:
Try to sell Modern Warfare to a friend of yours that is a casual sort of gamer. One of the first questions you’ll be asked is “What’s it like?” – you’ll say “It’s an FPS, like Halo” or something to that effect – you state a genre and give an example they may be familiar with. That describes the game simply, succinctly, and well enough for the average Joe-Casual gamer to make a decision as to whether or not they’ll be interested in purchasing this game.
Now try to sell Brutal Legend. “What’s it like?” – how do you respond? It’s next to impossible to give any examples your friend would be familiar with, so you have to be more descriptive of the game itself and if you say more than 5-10 words, you’re just going to lose the person’s interest.
Hey guys I got a question…
So I got my Blood Dragon Armour and put in the code, got the plate and continued the game.
First of all people are saying that im supposed to get the other parts of it from some guy called Bodhan or something like that and I was wondering who that is and where to find him.
Thanks!
P.S. Im a Dawrf Noble if that helps
Bodhan is the main merchant that is always at your camp. I don’t know how far in the game you are yet, but you don’t get him until the first huge fight and go to Loathering and get the Sten and Leliana.
Once you leave loathering you can always go to the world map all the way up to the top right of the screen and go to camp. Bodhan will always just be chilling there to buy and sell shit. He also has his retarded dwarf kid that can enchant weapons.
I would have bought Brutal Legend if it came out on the PC (I let my 360 collect dust while I game on the PC). It didn’t come out on the PC. I didn’t buy it.
oh cool thanks for the shout out and thanks for not changing your name to “gamepope”. That would have sucked.
Oh and Rich; I read on IGN that edge of twilight got canceled. Do you know whats up with that?
@hellodrjoe, there were some rumors a month back or so that development on the game had stopped and that it was canceled. The dev studio made an announcement saying that there were some problems with the publisher and that work on the game had stopped for a little while but the game is still in development and is scheduled to come out sometime in 2010.
Hopefully the game won’t suck.
This is a complete fucking joke. You must have either been born 9 years ago or are completely fucking retarded.
Seriously? Man, I’d say the opposite. That the 360 was the WORST console of the past decade! What age are you, may I ask?
I totally agree, the xbox 360 was the first to grow a set of balls, and now it carries them with style. I love my ps2&3, but nothing screams play me like my 360 does. I almost wish I was fanboy of the original xbox, cause I feel i missed out on it. Good article.
Im afraid this article is very poorly written, and youre arguments are shamefully presented.
Also, the fact that you said ‘yeah it sucks, GET OVER IT’ it your edit makes me cringe. Very unprofessional.
I could make a much better case trying to say the same thing as you, and not come over as a 15 year old wannabee freelance journalist who just got his first pen.
This is why the gaming industry remains a joke to other journalist areas, because of little pricks like you.
age comments? seriously ya’ll sound stupid… the article is well written, and with that kind of title of course it’s going to piss off most the fat kids that have nothing to do but troll. The 360 brought some really great things to consoles.
xbox sux stupid fag
PS2-3 FTW!!!
@Stubacca, I am 23.
@OldDoobs, I don’t claim to be a journalist in any way. I think the people that do claim to be gaming journalists are the ones that are jokes. It is video games we are talking about here.
If a person is going to be a journalist then they have to remain completely unbiased and report facts and do research and shit. Almost none of the self proclaimed gaming journalists are this way. Considering most of the “journalists” review games their very job is the opposite of being a journalist in every way possible. They give their opinion on a game and how good it is and if people should buy it or not.
I also fully admit that I am not a good writer in any way. Sure, I need to get better at it but the only way to get better is to keep doing it. I think that on certain subjects I have a legitimate viewpoint and opinion and I want to get that out for people to read.
Totally agree, the Xbox 360 was the most revolutionary console on this decade when it comes to online gaming. The wii might have been a wiser choice but as an hardcore gamer I just can’t make it count.
The PS2 was great but it was a huge step back from the Dreamcast. No online play in 2001 when we had it since 1999? I’m glad Microsoft picked up where Sega left, Sony ruined everything when it comes to multiplayer games.
The PS3 is just the biggest joke of all time. Remember when they presented Motorstorm and Killzone 2? How it was supposed to be so superior next to the Xbox 360? Turns out it’s not that great and even being released a year after the X360 it lags behind in multiplatform games and in the upcoming exclusives.
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Who in their right mind gave this down syndrome patient the okay to write on this website?! The Playstation 2 was by far the console of the decade, they are still making games for the fucking thing, I still have my original fat ps2, AND IT STILL WORKS. If the 360 did anything for this console generation it has made me second guess Microsoft’s intentions as far as their feelings toward consumers. The consoles break CONSTANTLY and they are just now getting them fixed, and lets not forget that I have to pay an extra 100 dollars just to get my xbox connected to my wireless network, and god forbid I have a third party memory card because microsoft wants me to go out and buy their 120gb hard drive for some 120 dollars. I can go pick up and 250 gb sata hardrive and throw it in my playstation for around 100 dollars, do you not see the problem here? Obviously not, I refer you to my prior statement, please take in to consideration the possibility that the author of this article has a slight to medium case of down syndrome.
Wow. And I thought Gametrailer’s awards were bad. You declaring the 360 the console of the decade is laughable. Either you’re pretty dumb, or you’re being paid by Microsoft, but they wouldn’t waste their money on a site like this, would they?
saw your “edit”, and you are still discrediting the PS2..
the fact that many of its great exclusive games could have been made on the other systems does not change the fact that they weren’t
there’s absolute nothing in your article that supports what you intend, yes the x360 introduced a very solid and feature rich online system to consoles, but that was going to happen even without it, as the PC gaming was going in that very same direction long before the x360
the PS2 was responsable for the biggest change in console gaming, making people see that games aren’t just some mindless thing to kids do to kill time, games can be experiences as rich as any good movie or book
@REALLY
Mate i dont think you understand do you?
Nobody is denying that “the 360 brought some really great things to consoles” It fucking did! XBL is a massive brand name these days.
I think the reason youre getting all this crap is because the article you wrote doesnt really help explain your point at all, just makes you look stupid. Most of your points can be attributed to the PS3 also, and youre forgetting that the PS2 was around for all of this decade and is still going.
Long story short – the article is poor/rushed/shallow.
And if you dont beleive me, read the comments for yourself:
http://www.n4g.com/gaming/NewsCom-452302.aspx?CT=1&Page=1&Page2=1#C3168996
@Joe Jackson
Yeah. It also revolutionized the failure rate! LOL
Wow some of you guys are real pricks. Every single one of his points was legit and well laid out. This article was great. It is just your narrow-minded nincompoops that think your system of choice should be on the list, that have the problem. I am an avid gamer and have enjoyed nearly every system since the Atari (with the exception of the 3DO, Jaguar, and the other obscure ones) and can give credit where it is due. Even though the 360 HAD a high fail rate at LAUNCH, it did a lot of innovative things that started on the original XBOX and perfected on the 360. Please stop with the bullshit hate for no apparent reason other than being a fat, basement-dwelling lonely troll, that only plays one system because you guys have serious problems.
Fuck, most of you guys are retarded. If you can’t spell or use proper grammar your opinion does not matter on the internet. I’m sorry, I didn’t make the rules, that’s just how they are.
LOL ps2 best konsole all time!!! you suk!!
Yeah, I have been reading the comments. I thought I would have some negative feedback but I honestly didn’t think it would be this ridiculous.
I don’t think it really matters that I didn’t initially mention the RRoD, it was a hardware issue, which is not at all the point I was trying to make with this article.
I also left out handfuls of features that Microsoft has shoved into the Xbox 360 for the sake of wanting to keep the article somewhat short. If you want me to I would be more than happy to write up a 5 page article on every feature that Microsoft has implemented across the Xbox and Xbox 360 and how they planned out how to implement just one or two features at a time in order to increase attach rate for each of them.
I could also go into much more detail about how Achievements alone have changed games but I didn’t think it was necessary.
Lol@ the guy who praised the PS3! Cell processor is a good and revolutionary thing?! SInce when?! It’s not better for it’s time than the Emotion engine or the SNES graphics card.
“Xbox LIVE is the reason that some people might decide not to purchase a game at the full $60 price point if the title doesn’t contain online multiplayer. It is also the reason that some reviewers feel justified for lowering a review score due to lack of online multiplayer.”
I find that more bad than good.
Online is extremely overrated and boring and causes Devs to waste precious time programing it in every bloody game.
Where’s the good single player experience’s these days?
Only on a Sony console most of the time.
IMO the PS2 is the best console of the decade by far. 360 cannot hold a candle to it.
This article is a joke. All the points you listed have been around waaay before the Xbox ever hit the scene. MP has been going on since dial-up days and has been infinitely more successful on the PC that it ever will on any console. I’m not a PC Gamer (used to be) but this article sounds like someone who was born last decade.
And to the guy who bought a 3DO and a Jaguar… I wouldn’t be boasting about that… especially if you’re trying to represent the 360, lol.
There’s a couple of things in here that are just made up:
1. Microsoft didn’t introduce DLC at all, that’s been hand waved as fact and it’s wrong.
2. The PS2 could support the number of Halo 2 players as I seem to recall at one point there were more SOCOM players alone than on the whole of XBox Live. Hell XBox Live has the worst uptime of any of the services like the PSN or Steam.
3. The game recording in Halo 3 is there in the Killzone 2 service and with much more like full clan support and game scheduling in the web interface.
4. XBLA isn’t some new magical thing, digital distribution of games existed way before it.
5. You mentioned how Braid might not have been made without XBLA, well that’s wrong as it was a PC game originally and always has been. Sold on Steam no less.
I can’t understand how updates suddenly make the console better than others, especially as all of them have software updates. Just because the NXE is a complete change shows more how the original interface was bad than how amazing the updates were for the 360.
Given that the PS2 was designed from the start to support online and a big for the time HDD(5 times that of the XBox as I recall), it’s pretty much equivalent to the original XBox in features to support that type of functionality. But given that it was released over a year or so earlier and most of these things weren’t mature enough at the time, it was probably the better choice for them to not bundle all that in.
As I’ve said to other people the PS3 and 360 are representative of the strengths of their makers, hence why Sony haven’t had as nicely integrated software and Microsoft had pretty shoddy hardware. I’m including in that the proprietary nature of all the 360 hardware where only official memory cards and wireless controllers can be used.
Strangly enough there are a lot of folk pissed off by this article. It’s just *HIS* opinion… although I have to say I’ve got to agree with the best man. Both the PS2 and the Gamecube didn’t exactly bring anything new (or rather daring) to our industry. And to define a decade, you’ve got to have balls and come up wih some new ideas.
The only thing Sony Playstation managed to do was to popularize ideas already in existence. Implementing en populairizing the use of DVD’s, wasn’t anything new… it rather was a logical step from CD’s. Microsoft and Nintendo were probably already busy implementing DVD in their consoles before the existence of the PS2 was known to the public. So there goes that argument…
Then there is an argument stating there are still games begin made for the PS2. That fact is impressive indeed, but by stating this, you are also saying that the console that defined the decade would be that one wich is the most popular one… And by that, you could even zo say that Transformers 2 defined the last 10 years of film. And that my friend, is a statement I can not support.
The Xbox 360 has certainly proven itself to have a huge impact on the gaming industry. Almost every single improvement the PS3 made in comparison to the PS2, were standards Microsoft set with their Xbox and perfected with their Xbox 360. To have such an impact on the strategy of a consolegiant as Sony, is impressive to say the least. And then there is that argument of broadening the market with XBLA. This has been one of the greatest improvements this decade. Finally there once again is room for originality and a fresh air in this rusty industry.
But not only Microsoft defined some of the most important moments in gaming history the last ten years. Nintendo had their share of fame too. While the Nintendo Wii may not be for everyone.. it sure hell is something for most of humanity. Like XBLA is broadened up the market, but in this case in an entirely new direction. Some think this is for the bad of the industry, but it will no doubt be in favor of gaming. While film already has a long history of standardization, the gaming market is still a bit small. And it will no doubt take a long time before it’s as far as film is today, but with the Nintendo Wii it took a great leap into a still uncartain, but exciting future.
And last but not least. The one piece of technology (software in this matter…) I think was the most important for the gaming industry the last decade: Macromedia (now Adobe) Flash! Thousends, maybe millions of people found their way to gamemaking through Flash. While it certainly still isn’t easy to make games with, it really removed that high barrier that was in the way of gamers that wanted to create their own games. Like XBLA, it has broadened the market, and has given space for those with little experience to show commercial big-budget titles games can be great with just an (or simple
) idea in mind.
So… that is my take on the most defining (and probably best) ‘consoles’ of the decade
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XBOX has it pros and cons don’t get me wrong…but i have to totally disagree with this article. I know plenty ppl who had plenty problems with their Xbox and had to keep getting it sent it and fixed….Plenty. Haven’t met ONE PS3 fam who has had that problem….Xbox has too many technical problems as an overall system….i believe they are rookies compared to the PS system…. just my opinion….
@EVG, you want good single player experience? Dragon Age, Bioshock, Dead Space, Mirror’s Edge, Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, Assassin’s Creed II, Bayonetta, Dead Rising, Braid, Shadow Complex, Oblivion, Fallout 3. There are still a SHIT TON of GREAT single player games.
@CircleofFire,
Braid was on XBLA before it was on Steam. Trust me because I bought the game on both.
Microsoft may not have created DLC, but they are the ones who made it a successful business model and beneficial to the consumer.
XBLA is magical. Yes, digital distribution did exist before but it failed miserably every time until Steam came around. Microsoft made the digital distribution of small and cheap titles something that exists and is extremely successful.
Updates are absolutely great. Having a game that can never be changed or fixed is an issue of the past. The ability to fix glitches and update an entire UI to implement more and more features is absolutely better than not having that ability.
When looking on the whole of things, the Xbox 360 has done more to change gaming that the other systems, in my opinion. It introduced more new features to the console market and then standardized them to make the competition include similar features in their consoles to the point where all systems offer many of the same features.
“The PS2 just couldn’t support the number of people that played Halo 2 on the xbox.”
– NamelessTed
“It had online play, downloadable maps, updates, and all sorts of shit.”
- NamelessTed
All I can say is Socom 3 and Digital Versatile Disc (DVD) defeats the whole argument about the original XBOX. The original XBOX was more powerful but ran on DVD’s, the same as the PS2, so how much greater can the game get with the same media type (hint: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas)? The online aspect that made XBOX better was the online besides that we wouldn’t be talking about it. Still to this day, the only real argument is the online; if you derive away from that it doesn’t stand on its own against any other platform very strong.
Just stick with the online, and you’ll be safe, lol.
I also forgot to mention that Microsoft basically recreated the Dreamcast in their vision. So the whole argument about redefining the gaming industry, I mean “the real console of the decade” would be Sega and not so much Microsoft. They just got rich of off someone’s ideas, but in the end the XBOX 360 still uses the same media format as the original XBOX 360. The tables are turning, in my perspective.
@TX3, the reason the Xbox 360 is the console of the decade and not the Dreamcast is because the dreamcast failed miserably. Yes, Sega has some great ideas but they were poorly implemented in almost every way and Sega did a piss poor job marketing and all around managing the Dreamcast.
As far as your DVD argument goes, I don’t understand what you said at all. When I was talking about Halo 2 not being able to be supported on the PS2 I was talking about online play. My point had nothing to do with DVDs and everything to do with LIVE.
This article is a joke. It must be.
****It starts bad I know.*******************
Doesn’t the X360 has the highest failure rate of any electronic in the entire history of man kind? And that’s just the beginning.
*N4G Lou-Cipher: “To bring up DLC as a positive for the 360 is downright embarrassing.
DLC has done nothing but allow Game Developers to cut a large chunk of content out of our retail games, and charge us later for something that should already be included with the $60 price tag.”
Another thing is that the PS2 is a console that came out 10 years and it had to some extend an online component and an incredible game called Socom. But what is a console without its games? The PS2 provided some amazing and very innovative games that expanded the market to such extend that Microsoft couldn’t resist to enter to the game because of the huge chunks of money that Sony was making from it.
-138 million PS2 sold (as of September 1, 2009). In other words, the best selling console of all times. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_2
Games like Shadow of the Colossus(only on PS2) proved that games could be more than just games, they could be art. Games like FFX and GTA showed that the PS2 combined with the DVD that Sony was pushing at the time paid by giving the necessary space to make such huge and beautiful games. On top of that, Sony were the first to add a second analog stick to its controller and that’s what made possible to play your precious Halo with a controller instead of keyboard and mouse. But always remember that a game called “GOLDEN-EYE” for the N64 came first than Halo.
~ If it wasn’t for the Sony PlayStation your precious Xbox wouldn’t exist right now and that’s why the X360 can’t be the console of this last decade (but maybe for the next?). Because Microsoft has done nothing but profiting from the same market that Sony have created with the PSX/PS2 while Nintendo dug one of their with the Wii. Sony has done more for gaming than Nintendo and Microsft combined this last decade. But seeing how now Sony is making a motion sensing controller and Microsoft the “Natal” it’ll be pretty hard for these 2 to win the next “best console of the decade” to the Wii.
NOTE: I’m talking about this decade. Because 2 decades ago there was a console called the Nintendo Entertainment System that single handedly saved the gaming industry as we know it. Now, pay more respect and don’t let yourself be impressed by novelty because in 10 more years when you want to play your old X360 games online
Dear Lord… I stop watching the site for 5 fucking minutes and the world ends!!!
dreamcast mother fucker
also 1999 is considered this decade now so stfu
A few months ago I had contacted this site about writing some of my own articles from time to time, but some crazy things came up in my life and I had neglected following up on it. Silly articles by Rich make me want to reconsider just so I can post rebuttals to his insanity.
All of your points boil down to features of the Xbox Live service. While it is true that this is intrinsically linked to the Xbox 360, it does *not* make the Xbox 360 the “console of the decade” because Xbox Live has nothing to do with the console itself.
I know you’re not going to want to do this, but humor me for just a moment. Take Xbox Live out of the equation, and evaluate the 360 against the PS3 (or PS2, if you want to). What exactly has the 360, by itself, done for gaming and/or the industry? Not a whole hell of a lot, even when compared to the original Xbox. The original Xbox standardized HDDs in consoles, before the Xbox that was just not done. The 360 came along and F’d that up by making the HDD optional, a decision that still puzzles me.
Now let’s compare it to the PS3. Let’s see, the PS3 made Blu-Ray and Wifi standard – not to mention they learned both what to do and what not to do from MS, and made the HDD a standard feature as well. Then there is six-axis control, which regardless of how you feel about it (I personally think it’s kind of silly, yet it does have some good applications like Flower), is something new to the industry.
The fact is, when you compare the *console* against any of the others, it really didn’t do all that much, other than piss off a lot of people with RRoD (myself included, 3 times and counting). Sure, MS *does* replace the systems for free for 3 years, but it’s a massive inconvenience and while I could be forgiving if it happened only once in a while, it has really gotten to be quite ridiculous.
Now, if the argument you want to make is that Xbox Live is the console internet service of the decade, I think you’ve got a lot of valid points and I’d find little to disagree with. I think Sony’s online offerings, while definitely very good for being free, are still a far cry from Xbox Live, both in features and ease of use. None of this should be surprising though. MS is a software company and Xbox Live showcases their strong points very well. Sony is a hardware company and the PS3 showcases their strong points very well.
Anyway, Xbox Live != Xbox 360.
@Ryhanon,
Thank you for your reply. You actually bring up a lot of good points, I appreciate that you have actually added to the conversation intelligently. I talked with Ara before Chatterbox last night and he brought up some other points that I am too lazy to get into at this time.
As for maybe writing on the site or doing some collaborative work, I think that would be great. I admit that I say stupid shit a lot of the time I just get flame responses or people just ignore me because I am an idiot.
Looking back at the article I also think I should have come at it from a different angle. I might actually pick the original Xbox as the most important. Or maybe I could have come from the angle of saying that Microsoft has been the most influential company in the video game industry over the past decade.
At any rate, I should be finishing packing for CES this weekend but I wanted to drop a quick reply. I am busy this weekend but I will send you an email sometime next week and maybe we can come up with a topic where we can argue two sides on something.
You’re clearly not an idiot, but you are most definitely bad at expressing yourself and arguing a point.
People are often too quick to call you an idiot instead of trying to understand where you’re coming from. The most frustrating thing about you is not when I disagree with you (which is often), but when you’re touching on a really great point but are not able to articulate that point. I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve listened to the Chatterbox podcast, wishing I could call in and defend a point you touch on that Alon and Ara are so quick to dismiss. In fact, were it not for you I’d have probably stopped listening a long time ago. Alon and Ara seem like smart and decent guys, but they agree on almost everything and it would be boring listening to a show just to hear a couple of guys agree with each other all the time.
Golly, this real time blogging is lovely. Nearly as good as being there…nearly I said.
Now Josh, where are you? Just the one pic? Are you really hidden in the floor boards?
we are the f**kin’ sex.
I know, right?
Kitler… HAHAHA!
Alex, what the fuck are you talking about?
I’m pretty much ranting about game reviews. The subject came up on last weeks Chatterbox and I said I’s write something about it; then I forgot until an hour before class and wrote this up.
I swear there were more pictures of Kitler. Josh, am I correct in this assumption?
There’s one more, it’s basically the same.
Sigh, you should have come out with us that night… I wanted to write an article soley dedicated to the life and times of Kitler.
By far my favorite article I have read on this site.
Fair. I thought it was belisle’s Bayonetta article… but then I actually read it… You’re doing God’s work here Alex! That’s why you’re are Sr. Editor!
I <3 Kitler, also you tagged a photo of me but it is actually Ash <3
My favorite part is the editor’s grammatical errors. LOL
Fixed…
I feel like you just took a shit on one of my favorite games.
You neglected to explain some of the best parts of this game. What about the music? Did you pick up on the progressing tone?
And for the fluid dynamics “the liquids are pretty”? WHAT!? I distinctly remember how I felt the first time I made a man-made volcano in this game.Its completely awesome, flexible and open ended This really doesn’t do it justice.
How could you not even mention the “Suits”? There are 4 Suits that the game revolves around. Also, there are more elements and abilities in play than are not mentioned here(like steam, ice, magnets and the grapple).
This cant really be a review, I realize this is a half joke(with Cory’s comments) but if anyone reads this and then decides to not check the game out, please forget what you just read and check another site first
First, I get how you think I missed some things like the music, ice, gas, and not jizzing on my shiny new dualshock controller over the fluid dynamics… The game was a fun retro style shooter that didn’t pose enough of a challenge.
Second, It definitely does not revolve around the suits. You get each suit maybe twice.
I think it could have used more fast-paced and precarious situations… Again, was it worth $10 bucks? Yes. Do I see myself caring enough to try to find all the secrets and get the achievements? No.
There were actually three shits: “and R1/R2 shoots shit”
Four, if you count Cory.
three shits? haha what? sorry I’m confused, if you mean’t suits, no there are 4(spoilers!) magma,water,magnetic & zen…. 4 shits.
whoops, never mind that last one..(i was tired/stupid)…anyways, Yah i can se how just getting trophies might not be enough motivation for some people to try the extended goals (like not letting anyone die, or finding all the diamonds)And that seems to be where the real challenge in this game comes from. If they find a better carrot on a stick for the sequel, i bet you’ll really enjoy it, because I had the most fun in this game going though each level for the second time.
What a strange review…
I laughed out loud multiple times and had to apologize to my co-workers.
You peed in lady Ga Ga’s sink? You could have thrown a rock a Steve wonder? Defiantly some fantastic stories in there.
Thanks for sharing, that was awesome.
Yes. I pissed in GaGa’s sink. And people keep thinking that’s some obscure euphemism when in reality I’m being quite literal.
I liked this game. You should check out Upgrade Complete on newgrounds.com Similar concept but very customizable.
haha
oh shit, maybe I am the only listener left!
My favorite Golgocast so far!
We enjoyed it, we’re actually in the process of planning the single greatest podcast in podcast history for May…actually.
Yes, the single podcast. Everyone knows about the single podcast.
Die Josh.
The real (fake?) Bayonetta made it tingle in my pants. These ones made me poop.
Huh? Now this is odd. While I couldn’t care less for Bayonetta, I – just like Belisle – feel a craving to go poop.
My guess is if you didn’t have a woman already and met any one of these girls randomly and they asked you out you would say yes.
I am going to have to disagree with you. I know alot of games have sold well, but new EA IPs don’t generally sell that greatly. Look at Dead Space and Mirror’s Edge. Also If you look at the preorder charts for America God of War 3 preorders are greater than Dante’s Inferno, and DI is closer to release. The numbers from GoW3 are 327,688 and DI on both consoles added up to 200,415. God of War 3 still has a month and a half to rack up preorders, DI has 2 weeks. I don’t beleive it will sell more. I see 1.3 million for the PS3 version and 850,000 for the 360 version. Bringing it to 2.15 mill.
@Joseph, fair enough. Dead Space and Mirror’s Edge are good examples of new IP not selling much more than 1 million units. I find it interesting that you think the 360 version of DI will sell less than the PS3 version. Any particular reason for that? Most multiplatform games typically sell more on the 360.
GOW3 will win.
Doesn’t really matter though because both games will suck.
Sorry Joseph..the 360 version of Dante will easily outsell the PS3 version. But won’t outsell GOW 3…
I’d like to hope that DI sells well, I liked DI’s demo more than GOW 3’s
I think what’s swaying me is that Sony’s exclusives just aren’t selling the same way the XBOX’s are, let alone in this case a multi-platform. Despite all that hype and critical acclaim Uncharted 2 received it still hasn’t pushed as many units as the original did in the same time. And now it seems to be dropping off, “actually”. For as much as a fanboy of Sony as I am, I whole heart-idly believe that they are incapable of effectively marketing anything. Hence… why I’m buying this prediction. EA’s campaign is too unique and innovative. God! Who doesn’t want a giant wooden box that won’t stop playing Rick Astley until you smash it with a hammer?
Never use the word “might” in an article like this. I can’t believe that a GOW clone would outsell the original franchise, especially such a blatant ripoff as Dante’s Inferno. Stupid article, speculative information and irrelevant examples.
WTF are you talking about!??
You just rambled about sales figures during half of the paragraphs.
You clearly DIDN’T explain WHY Dante’s Inferno might outsell GOW3.
First of all, GOW3 is an exclusive, you’ve highlighted all the exclusive sales for PS3 hyped games. Roughly they sold around 3-5millions. But did you dare to analyse multiplatform sales? Because Dante’s Inferno is a multiplatform game not a PS3 exclusive!
Second, since Xbox fans want to try out GOW and see why ps3fanboys are banging on so much about (even the ps3tard fanboys doubting Dante’s Inferno as a cheap imitation of GOW3). Xbox fans will want to try out Dante’s Inferno because it’s a GOW ripp off.
Third, there’s gonna be an advert for Dante’s Inferno at this American football thing, whatever it is or called. This will drive sales to Dante’s Inferno.
Fourth, ones who have read the book will likely want to play the game, even though the game ruined some stuff and took liberties. There’s already 12 thousand fans for Dante’s Inferno Facebook page. Hack n Slash lovers (bayonetta/darksiders) will get this game.
Fifth, you highlighted ps3’s exclusive sales, though since Dante’s Inferno is multiplatform, I do think GOW3 will not meet Dante’s Inferno’s sale. I mean, everybody hyped up Uncharted 2 (doubt GOTY 2009), yet it only reached 3 million copies! And you do know that multiplatform games do sell more!
It’s the same bull how everyone is hyping up GOW3, and I’m sure it will not reach 4million before Uncharted 2!
Sixth, Darksiders and Bayonetta were released at a bad time because a lot of people were waiting for Mass Effect 2. Bayonetta is doing well in sales on ps3 (Japan). Everyone is sceptical for the ps3 version elsewhere because of SEGA sh* port! Mother farkers couldn’t even make HDD install, Sony had to do it!
Seventh, 18 rated, contains nearly everything: langauge, violence, nudity etc. Dante’s Inferno has heavily use of nudity than GoW3, I’m still not sure on which game has heavy use of Violence. I mean GOW3 has head ripping off, while Dante’s Inferno has gruesome way of killing!
This is hell we are farking talking about, it’s torture and violence, of course people would wanna buy Dante’s Inferno before GOW3 comes out. (ps3tard fanboys will eventually buy Dante’s Inferno even though they bash it!).
“I find it interesting that you think the 360 version of DI will sell less than the PS3 version. Any particular reason for that? Most multiplatform games typically sell more on the 360.”
To Nameless Ted and OldBoy.
Dante’s Inferno will sell more on PS3 than Xbox 360 because EA and DICE are supporting the ps3 platform, they feel that PS3 is good for hack n slash, that’s the reason why they made the Divine Edition on PS3.
More also Dante’s Inferno will sell well on PS3 because PS3 has a good controller responsive and layout for hack n slash games (infact for nearly every genre, more than 360!). Bayonetta PS3 already out sold Xbox 360’s version in Japan. If God of War is ps3 exclusive and Dante’s Inferno is a GOW clone, don’t you think people would buy the ps3 version?
@Xino, I am not really sure what point you are trying to make.
The reason I use PS3 exclusive titles as examples is to compare them to God of War III. I then go on to compare previously new IP to Dante’s Inferno. Both Rock Band and Assassin’s Creed were multiplatform games, as was Fallout 3 (which isn’t a new IP).
Also, with the exception of MGS4, most big name PS3 exclusives have sold closer to 3 million, not 5 million.
Yeah, I’m gonna have to disagree with this article. Most of the new PS3 IP’s you mentioned came out at the start of the consoles lifecycle. And we all know that when a new console is released with new IP’s they tend to sell because of the lack of many good games. That is why those games you mentioned sold as many as they did. But now that we are further into the lifecycles there are more games so people aren’t settling for a game just because it’s new.
Mandel
it’s not about PS3 was released and those game just came out.
Everbody hyped up Uncharted 2 so much with it’s boasting graphics. Yet the game has only made 3 million.
It’s EXACTLY the same thing with GOW3, the fanboys can boast for all they care. The game will only reach 3 million sales!
I can see you have put up some okay arguments, but you also failed in some ways:
1) ur MGS example fails, since MGS4 sold more than MGS3. What that shows is that a new gen version of a game boosts the appeal for a game and many fans return to check it out.
2) In marketing, you clearly forgot to mention the GOW3 NASCAR as well as any further marketing the game will likely get closer to release.
3) You forget how many new fans GOW has since the release of GOW collection.
4) You forget how many pissed of gamers their are, angry at how EA and DICE have shitted all over an epic novel and claim they only used DI to sell the game and not to the novel any justice.
5) You forget that many PS3 owners will not buy DI and wait for GOW3, meaning the 360 may have to keep DI afloat.
6) you forget that many 360 owners will be busy playing ME2 and Bioshock2 and waiting for Alan Wake and Battlefield BC2 than risking playing a wanna be GOW3.
7) New IP’s are not a guaranteed 3-4 million seller success. Bayonetta, Brutal Legend, Mirrors Edge, Dead Space and Infamous say hello.
9) You haven’t taken into account the new trailer SOny will probably show off to the masses nearer to launch that had people like Ngai, HHG and many other journalists gob smacked.
I am not saying I disagree with you, I am just saying you haven’t taken these variables into consideration.
@Nameless ted
The reason I believe the PS3 version will outsell the 360 version is simple. The PS3 version has 130,000 preorders and the 360 version has around 70,000. Last week the PS3 version went up by 18,000 and the 360 version went up by 9,000. This is the “American” charts. If it’s selling more on the PS3 in America it will outsell it worldwide. People know that the PS3 version is getting the better stuff, also PS3 owners are the demographic for a game like that. I won’t be getting Dante’s Inferno, but I sure as hell will be getting God of War 3. Also Sony are heavily advertising GoW3, Neither of the first two games had 7-11 or Nascar adverts, I also never saw a God of War commercial for 1 or 2. This will change with GoW3, and people have seen how sick it looks and will but it, even if they haven’t played either 1 or 2. An example: My friend played GoW1, not 2, but intends to get 3, because it loooks sick. I assume 3.5-4.5 mill for GoW3.
Fei Hung
some nice arguments there but you too failed in many ways
2) Dante is getting Super Bowl advert that will generate sales (18 rated game (hell) being shown with family fun football!) and from Facebook post of Visceral “front page of the New York Times”.
4) Do you really believe some UK gamers will spend £100 for the GOW3 collection? No multiplayer, no online, DLC? unlockable contents?
5) PsP is hungry for games, PsP users will keep the game afloat. And PS3 users are bound to keep it afloat because EA are supporting the PS3’s version with the Divine Edition.
6) Xbots who experienced the Bad Company 2 demo will dismiss in buying it because of the poor quality demo!
7) Infamous sold 1 million (Infamous 2 in the works). Bayonetta should have been released 2009, the game got delayed so people wanted to buy Mass Effect 2 instead.
Dante’s Inferno is a multiplatform, multiplatform games sell well.;)
Sony missed their chance for the Super Bowl ad. After enjoying Dante’s Inferno, everyone would be expecting the trailer and will not be anticipated any more.
well dante is a multi so it doesnt matter…
i dont see why people think Uncharted 2 hasnt sold enough,yeah it hasnt sold what it deserves but still,the first barely reached over 3 mill. in a little over 2 years and U2 has about 2.7 in 4 months.gow3 will sell well with its big fan base with the first 2 and with gow collection.to tell you the truth i think gow 3 is the biggest ps3 exclusive sense mgs4,its a wild thought of mine but i think gow3 will sell more than mgs4.
Yeah.. How many people do you think know about Dante’s Inferno? People are more likely to have heard about Kratos then Dante, and even if they heard of Dante’s Inferno first they probably heard about God of War in the process due to all the comparisons.
Then you have to consider this: A new third party EA ip selling out a first party Sony series? Only if it’s revolutionary, which its not. You have to think about it.. Mirror’s Edge and Dead Space didn’t even do well. Why would Dante?
Normally I would totally agree, but due to the circumstances as of now I’m unsure. I expect God of War to sell somewhere between 2 and 3 million, and Dante to sell about 2 million. Really though, Dante is not a mainstream game, and even a great game like Batman: Arkham Asylum only pushed 2 million, even with one of the most recognized characters in the world on its cover!
But.. We’ll see how it turns out.
You know you lost this discussion ever since you decided to make this shit , all you wanted were some hits and posts any posts and you win but got raped in the same time.
You are stating the obvious here dumbass and there are chances that your obvious might be destroyed.
GOW IS EXCLUSIVE
DANTE IS NOT
Now calculate and STFU fool.
Can’t wait for Dantes’s Inferno to rape GOW 3 sales, then the tears will flow.
I really don’t care how well Dante does. I still wouldn’t buy a crap amateur rip-off no matter how many dumb asses buy it.
Dante misses all the little nuances that makes god of war kick ass. Playing the Dante demo, the game felt shallow and soulless. That bit at the end where you’re riding that beast and killing demons had no weight to it, it felt very mechanical. Games like Bayonetta and Darksiders at least add something to the genre. Dante just rips off god of war 1…..badly.
I think god of war will do well and sell more than dante on the PS3 as it’s a well known franchise.
Another thing is that this article is rubbish. You, sir, are just not good at analyzing.
To anyone who wants a god of war-esque game that isn’t god of war. I recommend picking up bayonetta or darksiders over Dante’s Inferno. Much more enjoyable games.
@Thadd, what about my article is rubbish? And why am I not good at analyzing?
Is my comparison of GoW III to MGS4 incorrect? Are my factual numbers of sales of other PS3 exclusive titles also wrong?
Is comparing Dante’s Inferno to other new IP from a large third-party company with financial backing incorrect?
I think Rock Band is a great example of a new IP being released by EA, which was going up against Guitar Hero III, an established franchise. Rock Band still sold very well. Assassin’s Creed was also a new IP that sold extremely well which was backed by Ubisoft. And I think it is obvious that EA is putting more money into the advertising for Dante’s Inferno than any other new IP, if not any of their games in general.
together including ps3 and 360 version i still doubt it.
one thing people are forgetting is sony has released lost of new IPs for the ps3, they have not released many famous ps2 titles so there is still many people waiting to change.
GOW3 will be the first title for them to do so, besides MGS4.
sequels of well known series always sell better than new IPs, there are many people who are waiting for one of those to buy a ps3.
im expecting GOW 3 to sell a good 5M by years end, i will be very surprised and disappointed if it does not.
as long as sony pulls their finger out of their a$$ and actually markets the game it should sell like hot cakes.
@ mark thats fine, gow3 will still beat di in everything else that matters, and probably outsell it in lifetime sales, i give 3-6 months before di is dropped for the next flavor of the month big game.
Whereas gow3 will have people talking about it for yrs look at part 1 and 2. Which game will be traded in after being beaten 1 time, i seriously doubt it’s gow3. So uncharted 2 has sold almost 3 million, and yet some people seem to use it as a sign of failure. Not every game out there going is going to hit 8 or 10 million units sold.
Di demo was okay, i’ll check it out at some point, but after trying the gow3 demo, man sony needs to let me buy this game already.
Dante’s inferno will sell more just for the fact that its multi-platform………..
Are you serious?? Your logic is not sound at all… Your comparing sales figures for uncharted which has been out what over 2 years to a game that has only been out what 4 months? You say Uncharted one has sold around 3 million units well guess what? That is in over a 2 year time frame which isnt all that good but decent for a new ip. Now you say Uncharted 2 has sold just under 3 million, THATS IN 4 MONTHS!! By the time it has been out 2 years it will easily reach 4 million! God of War 3 didnt win the Most anticipated game of 2010 at the VGA awards for nothing. Every web site iv been on that has done independent surveys show that it is indeed the most anticipated known game of 2010. Now considering DI is a multiplatform title and GoW3 is an exclusive then yes, sales across both platforms probably will out do GoW3 sales. Im sure DI will sell more on the 360 cuz they dont have GoW3 to save there money for coming out just a month later. There is no way that the ps3 version of DI will outsell GoW3. I a have a PS3 and i really liked th DI demo and im ok with it bing a 99.9% clone of GoW because i like GoW. But i have bills and am not planning on getting DI until after i buy and beat GoW3 or i may just rent DI.
I can’t see this happening at all. GOW 3 pre – orders are through the roof already and the game is still more than a month away. Yes, launching it just one week after Final Fantasy XIII is a bit stupid but it will still sell really well and with the massive marketing push it’s getting there’s no way Dante’s Inferno will match it. The only people who genuinely expect DI to outsell GOW 3 are mindless 360 fanboys, Like Mark, who can’t afford a PS3 so will never know what it’s like to play a real game.
Having said that i don’t agree with the general consensus that DI is nothing but a GOW clone. I think DI is taking a very interesting direction and i’ll definetly be picking up both games.
Also, there is one part of your article that is dead wrong – God Of War 3 is not Sony’s biggest release this year. Gran Turismo 5 is.
Why wouldnt it outsell god of war 3 its multiplatform moron. This article is pointless
To finalise this conclusion. i found somert tat might make you think tiwce. heres a chart figures for uncharted 2 this was taken for 21st october last year.WITHOUT NOVMBER AND XMAS PERIOD FIURES.
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=28733®ion=All
Total Sales
0.11m
Japan
ALSO YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE AME WILL E SELLING WITH COSOLES AS WELL..
1.34m
Americas
1.33m
Others
2.78m
Total
@xino
Uncharted 2 has only been out for about 5 months and it already has 2.8 million sold. I think it’s safe to say that It will outsell the first way before the one year mark of its release.
I dont care about sales but I do hope sony santa monica can get some good sales from god of war 3, also I hope Naughty Dog can get some more sales with U2. Any ps3 gamer that bought MW2 instead of U2 should die. Seriously you dumb fucks why would you pay 60 bucks for the same game every year and not buy one of the greatest games of all time!!! Oh because all you brainless people need floating guns on the screen to play a game. Dante who?? Please played the demo and will not buy. For sure buying GOD OF WAR 3 day one.
If you take your argument and add the fact that many people only get games for online play then that chops off a lot of the sales that people expect. On top of that many people will most likely buy GOW3 because of the hype it is creating and wanting to find out about it. I expect for the sales to be nearly even.
Not the best article on earth. Why do so many jurno’s write pointless articles about game sales. They should be writing articles that bring to peoples attention what really matters and that to me is techical break throughs.
IMO as long as any game sells enough to make a healthy proffit then it is a success, and looking at the sales trends of ps3 exclusives compared to there quality i think it’s clear that the more techicaly ground breaking a game is the smaller the audiance it seems to appeal to. just look at this generation’s best sellers, halo 3 and gears of war no matter how popular those tittles are they don’t push the envelope but sell a massive amount. It’s just the same with Mondern warfare. the first 1 broke the boundries with enabling you to shoot through walls and such and it sold a gigantic amount. but the money they made was in no way used to improve on the technolegy. MW2 does nothing more than the first one did apart from slighty improve Graphics, physics and some gameplay tweeks but no destructable environments??
I’m just pretty happy that i’m not the only person in the world that knows that the amount a game sells does in no way determin the quality and lets just take a second to think about Gran turismo 5. has that not got the potential to sell like nothing on earth??
Good article, but I felt you were engrossing Final Fantasy VIII more than anything else.
It’s because she has many boners for FF8. I think its the collection of overtly emo characters. Truly a major selling point. Lol.
…Whatever.
Also, FF8 was my favorite in the series forever. It was probably the first game I played that was more mature that your run-of-the-mill platformer.
I totally get what you’re saying.
There is no way that Dante’s Inferno will outsell God of War III. No one with a PS3 will buy Dante’s Inferno and not buy God of War III. But lots of PS3 owners will buy God of War III and not buy Dante’s Inferno.
Dante’s Inferno will release on the same day as Bioshock 2. Xbox 360 gamers are NOT going to buy Dante’s Inferno over Bioshock 2. In fact Bioshock 2 practically guarantees that Dante’s Inferno will sell more copies on the PS3 than it does on the 360.
God of War is going to sell more on PS3 hands down.
haha ironically enough, FF8 was my favorite too. Doesn’t mean I can’t point out obvious issues, or give people shit about liking it.
You know, I really enjoyed 8 as well. I actually didn’t play it until after i played 7, 9, and 10. But then the last disc was scratched too much and I was never able to finish the game.
It is just one of those things that you put so many hours into, and then you can’t continue and I would have to start from the very beginning just to experience the ending.
Fact is Dante’s Inferno is a solid game, add to that EA’s marketing and it will easily outsell GOW. Sony’s marketing blows and being the retards they are, still think their games will sell on name alone. They had the perfect time ad slot for for GOW during the Super Bowl but once again they failed, just like last year when they failed to advertise KZ2.
Marketing = sales
shitty “wrath of kratos” slurpees aren’t enough, sry kids.
Indeed, I’m in love with VIII and I will fight you if you say it’s a bad game (not really, but I’ll probably lol at you for liking VII more, because everyone who hates on VIII loves VII… pfft).
I would gladly pour a good 100+ hours into FFXIII if it’s as good as VIII.
Dude, solid article. I totally agree with you on this subject. There is a reason that I love games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age. While their speech and interaction systems do have flaws in them, they are totally moving in the right direction and do much better than any other game I can think of.
I still remember how betrayed I felt during my first play-through of Dragon Age when Zevran left my team. I had used him during a couple of missions but I hadn’t befriended him enough while I was in camp. Because of this, he was convinced by an old friend to get back into the assassin business and tried to kill me (again) so I ended up having to kill him.
In the case of Mafia, I can understand how difficult it could be to put some of those elements into the game. If the player decided to go around and try to sleep with everybody elses wives then everybody would be trying to kill him and would ruin any narrative the designers might have had planned. At the same time, the game might be brilliant if that was the case. I mean, Fallout 2 allowed you to do things in the game which ultimately made it impossible to finish, which was fantastic.
I don’t necessarily think that it’s an issue where one thing is easier than another (sometimes effective combat is a lot harder to do than social interaction), and I don’t really think his comment was meant to state that those two features went head to head and one lost.
What I think he is making a statement on, and I do think this plays into your overall point, is that gambling on a feature in a game is a hard decision to make. From a concept point of view, something can sound like a great idea, but then in implementation it becomes a lot more of a burden than it is fun, despite it being a cool idea (I’m looking at you, Too Human). In most games that don’t take a decade to produce (Dyack’s ears must be ringing as I type this) a lot of features don’t make it, because you only have X amount of time to finish a game, and you want to make sure that the parts of the game that aren’t a gamble are polished.
Just to give a couple design issues here with the feature in question, lets say I program some type of timing mechanism that determines amount of time spent looking at NPC X, and after a certain amount of time, a flag is raised where I’m now in trouble. But is it based on character orientation? or camera orientation? what’s the view radius of the character, is being in Line of sight counted as staring? what’s the appropriate stare distance? How do you determine the difference between looking at menus on the screen, reading something else, talking to someone in the other room while you’re playing, the cat trying to get on the counter, and someone actually starting at the NPC in game? Obviously there is probably a right answer to all of those questions, but the real question is, Is all the of the effort to solve and test the design issues for every situation worth having the feature in the game?
Just my point of view on the subject.
Digging the site though.
@Chris
It’s funny that you mention Dyack because he did something risky and awesome in Eternal Darkness.
I do agree that, when under a production schedule, you do occasionally have to cut out the harder concepts to implement. It simply means cutting out something that may be innovative.
I’m not one to love sequels. I tend to praise originality over polish. This, however, means I play a lot of mediocre games in order to enjoy something unique. The Right-stick attack Too Human gameplay was really cool. Did it pay off in the long run? Not really, but I would love to see it done again.
I think Madworld is a pretty cool guy, eh has a chainsaw and doesn’t afraid of anything.
Seriously though, great list, but I’m excited to see next year’s list, where we can add Literary education (Dante’s Inferno) and celebrating diversity (Mass effect 2) to the list of things to teach our children.
@Alexander
I’m glad you mentioned the Right stick combat, because it’s a better example than you’d think. I hated it. Like, loathed it, you can ask any of my roommates, I swore constantly while playing, wishing I had the finite control a button press offered.
But, some decisions aren’t going to make everyone happy, risks especially.
I would like to point out, that I wasn’t really defending not making original games, or really stating an opinion one way or the other, I just wanted to say that I can see where he’s coming from with his statement.
Just to chime in on Too Human briefly. The right stick control worked fine for me, it was everything surrounding that mechanic that sucked balls. Was I the only person that died all too often about 4 hours into the game? Because every time you die it literally takes 2 minutes to get back to the save/checkpoint. Fuck that noise.
Damn solid, fair review. Also, it’s made me aware at just how out of touch with games I’ve gotten…
What are you on about??
GoW 3 will be GOTY 2010, just like UC2 was GOTY 2009 and LBP=GOTY 2008 before it.
Sony’s gunna have a triple GOTY in a row!
Currently it’s a double XD
@Balram,
I think you missed the point of my article. Uncharted 2 was considered one of the best games of last year, but it wasn’t even close to the best selling game. Same goes for LBP.
My article has nothing to do with which game will be better, just a look at how I think DI has a chance of outselling GoW III even if GoW is a superior game.
I love God of War as a franchise. It strokes my mythology boner in ways most games try to, but don’t. .I bought a PS3 based on my intent to play God of War 3, which I consider one of Sony’s best franchises. I pre-ordered the Limited Edition God of War 3 Pandora’s Box and purchased the 1-2 collection, and upon my return home, immediately downloaded the demo and played through it a couple of times.
After about a week it dawned on me. This game is fucking ugly. I’m not taking about the number of polygons, or how many pores you can count on Kratos’ face. After a week all I could notice is how 60% of my screen was covered in black. Not dark colours, but almost 100% black. I’m an artist by trade, and you can call me out for being a fanboy or whatever, but ask any artist of repute and they’ll tell you to never, ever, use black for anything.
Somebody needs to remind the art director about God of War 2, which has a brilliant colour palette. Combine that with gameplay that has pretty much remained unchanged, and for me, you’ve got a game that leaves a sour taste in your mouth. Mostly because I was very much looking forward to this.
Here’s another thing: I absolutely hate it when a series jumps console generations. Not only does it often make the previous versions of a game unplayable by comparison, but it forces a consumer to buy a new system in order to continue a series. I hate it so much and I still bought a PS3 with the intent to play God of War 3.
Long story short, I canceled my pre-order, traded-in not only the God of War collection, but my PS3 and all the games I had with it. Games like Uncharted 1-2, Assassin’s Creed 1-2, and LittleBigPlanet. Because if I wasn’t going to play the game I bought the system for, I wasn’t going to bother.
For me, this generation has been a slew of disappointments. Nothing but rehashes of old genres with new coats of paint, sometimes ugly coats of paint. There are a few exceptions of course. Uncharted took the Tomb Raider formula and added-in characters that didn’t suck, and Assassin’s Creed took the idea of open world further than it had been in the previous generation.
Anyway, this is turning into a tl;dr. Bottom line, there are a couple of gems, but for the most part, fuck this gen. It’s the same as the last only more expensive.
It sounds like Jorge skyped in…sigh.
I think that the animated feature tie-in for Dead Space was more successful than the one for Dante’s Inferno. The Dead Space animation does a great job detailing all the events leading up to the beginning of the video game. Of all the reason’s I enjoyed it, the most important reason it is successful is that it focuses completely on events before the game and gives a more detailed back story and addition insight into the Dead Space world.
The Dante’s Inferno animation, on the other hand, doesn’t succeed in the same way. The animation is like a condensed version of the game. It takes a tour of hell, hits all the major boss battles, and key story events of the game. I didn’t like this part of the animation.
The one thing it does well, and better than the game, is the parts it takes the time to tell the backstory. The game is actually quite ineffective at detailing the events that took place during the Crusade with Dante. Even after having watched the animation, the game’s cut-scene were confusing at best.
I think if the animated feature spent more time showing the relationship between Dante and the other character develop before Dante goes to Hell would have been much better.
God, I’ve missed you Jorge!
Jajaja. Yeah it was fun.
Aside from the new “Battle of Forli” DLC, I have actually finished 100% of the game. Well, I didn’t get all of those treasure boxes because I don’t think those are necessary. But I did get all of the achievements and purchased every item in the game, got all the feathers, painting, and other collectible items.
Thanks, Ted. Already claimed that I hated myself, and now you’re making me feel like a bigger piece. Thanks, bro! If anyone needs me, I’ll be dead…
Nice use of Chippy in there.
And I always thought Makoto was a dude, until it was pointed out to me that she had boobs.
Ibuki is cool too, but I’m looking forward to using Juri the most.
Geoff, may I just say that you sir are indeed a find gaming critic. I mean it’s totally true, nobody takes the time to beat any modern games. Mainly becuase there aren’t more than 24hrs in a day and hopefuly people have jobs, go to school and are trying to make some sort of worth out of their lives.
P.S. I miss old school Doom and Duke Nukem….I would quit my job to be 10 again and play those games alllllll day.
I really wish I could buy that magazine but since I am from central Europe, well, it is quite a hard one to actuallyget my hands on it
But you got a really nice point in here Alexander, gaming is just all about violence, there should be more to it, I am sure there are other enjoyable things than just punching some guys into their faces or bloing thei heads off.
I think I’m going to be rolling with Guy/Adon most, but if Dudley is in the game, that would be triumphant to finally be able to pit Balrog against Dudley.
I will most likely stick to Fei/Ken and pick up Dudley. I am going to be all over this game. I am still playing IV lol…
PS: Molly, Josh has huge love bubbles for you.
PPS: Molly I’m just kidding.
PPSS: No I’m Not.
Now, I later learned that there were apparently some schools that weren’t excepted by the NCAA and that these schools are predominantly black only… hooray for Black History Month and learning how to justify segregation!
This is amazing.
I wouldn’t have paid $35 for it though.
I hope that doesn’t make ME racist.
First off, Dante’s Inferno is released the same as Bioshock 2 which could potentially hurt sales since it is confirmed that there were more pre-sold copies of Bioshock 2
There are very very subtle differences in the two images. The PS3 screenshot looks ever so slightly sharper than the 360.
Either way, game’s gonna be better on the PS3.
I didn’t want to get into all the technical mumbo jumbo in the article because it would probably bore most people. What it comes down to is that the game is running on two different engines on two different sets of hardware. When you look at how the GPU in each system renders certain things like anti-aliasing, shadow maps, and texture filtering. Aside from nVidia and ATI hardware handling these things differently (which usually causes instantly noticeable differences) the 360 version of the game also runs on different engine from the PS3 version.
I too have 100%’d Assassin’s Creed 2. Getting the feathers wasn’t too much of a chore, I thought. At least there were ways for me to sort of figure out where they were, rather than just having them in impossible-to-guess places. And it sure was helpful for them to let me know how many feathers I could find in each district.
As for Laura’s comment, the problem isn’t just that there are so few hours in a day. (Because, obviously, I could pick up the game again the next day) I just think there is some kind of allure of wanting something NEW to play, even when you have good, unfinished games on the shelf at home.
But good for your friend Goat for encouraging you, eh.
Wow, I had heard Microsoft was going to stop supporting old Xbox Live games, but I had assumed they’d be keeping Halo 2 up.
….not that I really care/have Halo 2.
What I think would be funny is if on the Xbox screenshot, the character was doing more damage.
I’m missing something. What is the complaint of this article? Are you suggesting that the two versions should NOT look the same?
The point I am trying to make is that Square Enix has clearly taken the same picture and just photoshopped the UI to make it look like a screenshot from the other console. This is dishonest and should not be allowed.
If the two games look very similar, then they should release actual screenshots from each of the consoles. I wonder why Square Enix would feel the need to doctor images in this way.
Eh. SquareEnix being dishonest or just plain money whoring imbeciles is all but normal now.
I’m sure it’s one or the other, the 360 version got more optimized and Square fears the lashing they’d get seeing as to how it should have been the other way around, or they somehow did a horrible job on the 360 version like Bayonetta on the PS3(I know not the same developer).
Either way, SquareEnix is still riding on Microsofts’ cock bluntly, you see the ‘Exclusive 360 DLC’ they’re now getting? Sony is constantly getting cockslapped by Square, next is that FFXIII Verus will go on the 360 or better yet the Nintendo Wii or DS for shits and giggles.
People have been releasing doctored screenshots forever.
nice work devs on taking a photo of lightning fight 3 guys on ps3 then getting lightning to fight 3 more guys on the 360 and take a picture in the same exact pose and damage being done :\
Big surprise from the Japanese Activision.
Don’t worry. SquareEnix has many other things to worry about than bad PR. They have relied on old franchises and old game design for way too long. They will be bought out soon enough.
Nice job NamelessTed
I’m in shock. This shouldn’t be happening at all.
I agree with Ted. Those are simply THE same screenshots with different buttons overlaid on it.
If you have 2 PCs, one with an Nvidia and one with n ATI GPU, you will NOT get the same picture twice either. It is simply how ATI and NVIDIA render graphics.
Either, it was too much work for SE to make 360 screenshots, as PS3 was ready quite some time earlier, or the 360 screenshots don’t quite match what the PS3 renders.
That is just disgusting ,.. SE go fuck yourselves.
why dont care about real life? just play the in the console that you like and shut up, freak , fighting for a game is stupid
@Mounce
You are a fool sir. But it was ok when Square was on Sony’s cock? Nobody was whining then was they, you people are a friggin joke.
I just opened up a few pairs in Photoshop; they’re exact pixel-by-pixel duplicates. Makes you boggle at comments like Molly’s.
I think you are just being jealous that FF13 on the 360 looks that good. Did you expect it to look like a PS2 game ? Grow up man. There are tiny differences in the pictures TBH but still…you`d be better bashing Polyphony Digital (GT developer) for all the fake pictures and trailers they released.
Hey, im not blacking up the Xbox 360 here because I hate the damn system but did you ever think that maybe this is how good it looks on the console? I know I wouldn’t believe it either, xbox hardware is a fail compared to PS3 but maybe these shots are legit?
Yeah this is pretty silly. Molly quit being a fanboy err… grrl. and play more Zoop jerk.
Rich, I agree with you on this article, next time though, try to sound less like a middle-aged house wife complaining about the poor service at an IHOP.
PS: I still love you. No Homo.
But t4cg, don’t you know that if you display the EXACT SAME PIXELS on PS3, they become sharper and generally better, due to the AWESOME POWER OF BLU-RAY ™ and Cell?
I just overlaid the two images in Photoshop. They are literally pixel perfect replicas with the exception of the button. The next question would be: Were these rendered on a PC? Most likely. However, I think this is just lazyness, and not some evil intent to trick the public. After all, the screen shots will look very similar, regardless of how it is rendered.
Can someone tell me what this article is trying to say? Are the photos doctored? Is the PS3 version obviously supposed to look better, but they’re the same here?
Half-way through this article I though you were being sarcastic then i realized you were serious. Oh NOES it’s not a real screen-shot? DAMN IT man, we really need to take a stance against the evil corporation of Square Enix.
Why don’t you write about something worthwhile
ahahaha… Molly proves that people will believe whatever they see fit for their narrative.
Actually, I kind of agree with Molly, because there are slight differences (although INCREDIBLY subtle) in both sharpness and contrast. Now, this could obviously still mean they are shooped and Square Enix has owned up to it being shooped as well. That being said, look at a game like GTA IV, I mean, without putting the games on both systems and playing them side by side, you won’t see a huge difference. Yes, sure, it’s dishonest to do something like this, but I honestly don’t feel that the PS3 is as far ahead visually as it could be when compared to the XBOX so I think most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference anyway. This still sucks, but I felt I’d jump in the pool and give my opinion!
… BTW if Capcom ever releases doctored photos of SSFIV, I will murder them…
I’ll probably stick with my current primary characters. I mean, I roll with Vega mostly and I also use Balrog, and Fei Long. However, while training on the Arcade Stick, I can’t utilize a character like Fei Long, because I haven’t mastered the circular movements to complete his moves. If I have a 6 button controller, I’m usually pretty solid. Jorge, we need to play. Are you going to Evo?
@Geeeoff,
Any difference you think you see between the screenshots is completely in your head. If you do a pixel by pixel comparison you will find the images to be 100% identical, minus the button icon difference. I am too lazy to find a screenshot right now but people have posted on other sites the comparison shots that they have run through software that compares every single pixel.
Molly,
1. Don’t By BCFX.
2. Be Racist.
3. ?????
4. Profit
Signed,
Geoff
wow… my nice, funny comment was ruined by my retarded inability to spell BUY
What evidence do you have that Square Enix doctored the screen shots? Have you seen the two versions running side by side, or are you just blinded by some misconception that FFXIII has to look better on the PS3? Have you considered that Square simply had the 360 and PS3 render the exact same scene for the screen shots? I’m sorry but you need stronger evidence then these two pictures look the same before calling Square Enix out
@NamelessTed
Dude, don’t get me wrong. These are obviously shopped. I guess the point that I was trying to make is that despite what is released on the press to satisfy fans, the two systems are going to run a very similar looking game. You don’t think that this probably happens a lot in the industry? I think that, in this instance, Square Enix slipped up and instead of choosing a DIFFERENT screen shot, they used the same one. It would be naive of us to think that Activision uses different screen shots for PS3 than they do for XBOX 360 when showing stills for Guitar Hero: Hanson.
So, I hope you understand I don’t disagree with the fact that they are the same photo, or even with your opinion of how wrong it is. What happened here is that Square slipped by not doing a good job of lying and just happened to be caught by a very rabid fan base (Final Fantasy fans). I think that when the game is released and you played on your PS3 at home and then you went to your buddies house and saw him playing on his XBOX that (minus any differences in the performance of the TV’s being used) you would see minor, if any differences at all… just sayin. And I know, it’s the principal, but, just sayin…
Well it’s time for me to eat crow. Apparantly Square Enix has admitted that both shots are from the PS3 version of the game, here’s a link: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-6894-Video-Game-News-Examiner~y2010m2d13-Square-Enix-responds-to-doctored-FFXIII-screens. In my defense this is a very poorly written article. The author should have gone into detail to explain how he knew the two shots came from the same source, in this case the PS3 version of the game. It wasn’t until I read the comments that I began to understand how legimitate the author’s claim was. In the future please give your audience a little more respect and explain your argument, because in you article you come off as a ranting fan boy.
who cares if they photshopped it. Only the 4 people getting it on the 360 around the world is going to be offended.
@Edgar: Makes you wonder why they’re using PS3 shots instead of 360 shots…
And to everyone else: I’ve got bad eyesight! I admit this. And yeah, it’s most likely a case of believing what you want to see. My glasses and love of the PS3 made sure to make the image slightly sharper in my mind
You can edit your comments you know…
It’s a matter of PRINCIPLE, JOE!!!! I’m still pissed they’re even releasing it on Xbox… money-grubbing whores…
Hindsight is always 20/20 Cory…
The top image is definately darker. Those may be the same images, but it looks like they added a filter, or something to make it look a little different.
I’m confused. How is this a bad thing?
That’s definitely it, looked. The top image is definitely darker.
At any rate, Square admitted to altering the photos. They said they felt there wasn’t any need to enhance the 360 pics, lol.
you know you guys, the arguing is silly. it should be obvious to any smart person that its the same image just by considering whats happening. your looking at in game shots. forget the whole pixel argument, its too technical. just look at whats happening. now, can anyone honestly tell me that they managed to get a picture where the enemys were in the exact same position, while the waves and shit in the background were in the exact same position, while lightning was in the exact same position, doing the exact same amount of damage, with the exact same amount of health, all at the exact same time. do you have any idea how hard that would be, no hell im not even sure it is possible. you would be damn hard pressed to manage getting the same shot twice on just one console let alone 2. so OBVIOUSLY the pictures are doctored. i mean come on, anybody who cant see this is just not thinking properly. im not a genious here, im a normal guy and i can figure this out instantly. so why cant some of you people? /end pointless rant on a website ill probably never visit again
For all of those saying “This one is darker, there are subtle diferences”, have you at least download the pics and really compared them? There are no differences apart from the Button icons.
The green means to be darker.
I was going to write this off as a joke but reading the last few sentences prompted me to retort. If you really don’t think there’s segregation in the world, you are dangerously short-sighted. That’s something else altogether, so I’ll focus just on the game you’re calling out for being racist.
First of all, it’s statements like yours that perpetuate and stimulate the ongoing knee-jerk reaction of calling anything that isn’t racially indistinct racist. If you took two minutes to look up the background of this game, you’d realize how absolutely ignorant you were two minutes prior.
This game is meant to make aware and celebrate the “experience” of a football game at one of the Historically Black Colleges and Universities schools. These schools were created out of the civil rights movement to provide quality educations to young black kids while at the same time giving them an environment to escape the persecution and double-standards they faced if they were even admitted to other schools. The game was developed, by a group in Baton Rouge whose founding members each hold degrees from accredited HBCU schools, out of a desire to show their appreciation and respect for their unique culture and atmosphere. Doug Williams, as quoted on the Nerjyzed developer’s blog, said that he wouldn’t have had a single moment of success in his life if it weren’t for Grambling taking a chance on a kid who never thought he could attend college. This is an instance where optional “segregation” works entirely to the benefit to the minority group and is recognized as one of the most effective blended programs for black students by the NAACP.
The game features a relatively terrible football engine, a buggy rhythm based marching band game for half-time, and a Guitar Heroesque mini-game for drum line practice. Nerjyzed fought for so long to find a publisher that the game had to be redeveloped for 360 since the original Xbox version had become obsolete. That aside, I’d love for you to go tell the developers that all you got out of their efforts is that they’re racist.
and in further groundbreaking news. Victory Secret photos are ALL air-brushed. … PR for Victory Secret replied with a tweet stating: ” do 14 yr. old boys really care…”
Geoff, you shouldn’t just roll with Vega. You should try flipping and diving too.
Molly, based entirely off the podcast, Josh does has gargantuan love bubbles for you. That’s okay though. I do too, entirely based off how much Jorge wanted to dismantle your street-cred.
Jorge, let’s put together a SFIV party. Josh will bring the chips.
-Eric
What is the controversy about? 360 isn’t supposed to have as good a graphics or something? From what I can tell neither version of the game is ugly so who cares? The only legitimate gamers that can say it will matter is those people with both conosoles. Otherwise you are stuck with what is available on your particular console.
“The top/bottom one is darker” that is just how LCDs work, scroll in the opposite direction and you’ll see they become equally dark ( one gets the darkness/contrast the other had). It is all an effect of the view angle of LCDs. The further images are from the center of your field of vision the darker they look.
Just wanted to give credit where credit is due.
I highly doubt this is down to Squeenix. They have already released all the technical specifications indicating the PS3 version will be sharper, they confirmed the 360 will have heavily compressed audio and video coding, so we know what to expect.
Doctored screenshots are Microsoft’s handywork. They can’t stand the fact that the PS3 is more powerful than their console and they’ll do anything to pull the wool over consumer’s eyes, especially if it’s regarding one of the biggest releases of 2010.
Don’t point the blame at Squeenix – point it at the company that would actually have something to gain by pulling a stunt like this.
dude… you can clearly see a difference in the ps3 and 360 builds. particularly the lighting.
i’m sure most agree that great lighting can greatly enhance a game’s appeal.
@Dude, look 3 posts above yours.
Well, I can see that you read the comment I made immediately following this article. I was OBVIOUSLY ignorant (and even stated so in my article) of these schools and why the game was created and YES it was a knee jerk reaction. That being said, this knee jerk reaction came from a mentality that there had to be a logical explanation for this title and that it wasn’t meant to be racist. This story was meant to be tongue in cheek and funny, as most all of my stories are. I’m sorry if I offended anyone with it.
Couldn’t they update the title to not requre less than 100 friends? I mean, banning old XBOX titles is fine with me… but wouldn’t it be just as easy to do the other?
Old XBOX sucks anyway… that controller was the size of a human head.
this is a fake imamgine, it comes from the same machine, how can it be do the same damage at the same time of the time battle and look at the number of damage, they are in the sae position, still the character are in the same position…
im sorry but this is not taken from the 2 console but just from a ps3 and with photoshop they put only the lb button.
Geoff, I did read your comment posted directly afterward which was more why I figured a response was appropriate. I knew it was tongue in cheek and I’ll be honest, that was a rant taken out on you based on every other time I’ve heard a mom or grandma yell at the GameCrazy clerk for having something racist on their walls.
I think the only person who seemed offended was you, by the game, which was my point.
No biggie. If Jorge does have a SFIV fiesta, I’ll buy ya a drink.
Oh Eric, you crazy
Geoff is a racist because he didn’t pay money to have a black football experience. I don’t want racism at my house.
On a more serious note, I have to agree with Eric, and not just because we are secretly one ultra powerful intergalactic learning organism, split in half and hidden in the subconscious of 2 humans, therefore hindering any feeble attempts by the galactic empire to preemptively halt the advancement of our universe-wide knowledge gathering mission. But simply because he’s right. Research before you post, THEN make with the funny.
All that sweet info unit 001 errr… Eric had mentioned would easily be acquired through simple use of what you earthlings call Google Search Engine.
/sarcasm
It’s okay, Jorge. I missed the part where he said he was retarded. Josh is apparently hiring writers who think twitter fodder should be front page news and who don’t know the difference between A-musing and BE-musing. *rimshot*
In my defense, this is an article that I posted on my personal blog and wasn’t intended to be listed on The Golgotronz… Cory took it and posted it. I’m not blaming him, because I wrote it and I didn’t research it, but all I’m saying is that I have my faults and I own up to them. I’ll probably post a retraction.
It’s fine, anyone who’s complaining is a little girl.
Seriously, this is the internet and someone wrote something. Get over it.
Arkham Asylum is a great game to mix in during this quest. The gameplay is just reminiscent enough to keep you frosty for AC2 and I got everything in the game using the in-game maps they provide. The toughest part of getting 100% on it is the combat challenges so you’re on your own there. You should post your gamertag so people can follow your progress!
Geoff, all along I thought this sounded like a blog post and the only reason it rubbed my rhubarb the wrong way is that even if you’re a fledgling writer on an up and coming site in the corner of the internet, you’re still writing published works that can be fed and aggregated to all kinds of people who are deciding whether or not Golgotron is worth reading. I send people here from everywhere else I frequent, so make me look smart for doing so.
Having said that, Cory’s a dapper, well-dressed twat for posting your blog entries on the front page of the site instead of giving you a blog here.
Josh, go suck a lemon. No one was offended by Geoff’s article.
Eric,
I agree. In the future, my posts will be researched, backed up, and semi intelligent. I want people to read it, too, and am proud to have my posts on Golgotron.com and will do what I can in the future to make all you sexy beasts look good.
Gamertag is pretty easy, it’s Geeeoff. I actually really like Arhkam Asylum, considering I’m a Batman GEEK. However, it’s not the Batman game I would have made. I’ll make that my next article. And thank you, Eric, for being the only one besides Laura who didn’t tell me how easy it was to beat AC2 after I made a big huge deal out of it… lol
My curiosity is piqued about the Batman game a professed geek would make. I thought Arkham Asylum did well as far as fan service goes as well as actually putting you in the cowl, but I had a few ideas as well.
Live via satellite! It worked fine though. You guys have so many people talking that if it weren’t for the varied qualities in their mics, it’d be tough to figure out who is who (outside of Josh, you, and Molly).
zOh my word, indeed. Vega and Dudley should have a bonus stage where they go pick roses together… co-op style… and when they’re all gone a gardener comes out and says “Ohhh.. mah crop.”
OK, clearly SE took the same picture and changed the button label. That’s not in dispute (it’s not, just use common sense). Do I think this was some disgusting play by SE to play off that the 360 version is on par to the PS3 version? No. Do I think Microsoft somehow had some say in the media that SE released in their press release kits? Hell no I don’t. They were probably just being lazy and using poor judgement in using pre-release build screenshots that they had in stock photos. I wouldn’t go throwing SE on the fire for it, but I agree that it wasn’t the best use of judgement on their part. I can guarantee they won’t make that mistake again since they got caught with their pants down, at least not for a while until the memory isn’t fresh any more.
Didn’t Capcom say something back in the day about current owners of SFIV would be getting something extra? I remember them saying there would be a reason not to sell the original. Has anyone said anything else about this?
Also, I can’t fucking wait.
@ Alexander Bevier: My guess is it’d either be a freebie way to download some of the new paid DLC, or way less likely the only free way to unlock the final unannounced oil wrestling character.
@ Jorge!: Dude, update your article with the new in-game screens of Dudley already!
I don’t care for the first two very much but I actually really like the last one. I imagine that the more electronic sounds of the FFVII battle music lends itself to hip-hop better than Ocarina of Time soundtrack which is best represent if full orchestral form.
Seriously Geoff, Rules 1 & 2.
@Aerose, The August Exception. Learn your internet rules. That is all.
Dude, thank you, Rich. BEEEEEEST FRIENDS!!!
LOVE IS IN THE AIR!
Oh Megatoes.. I can’t wait! Seichusen Godanzuki would look (and sound if the voices carried over) epic done up like an Ultra. Oh and nice touch making half of her face stay behind on the hayate. I didn’t expect their attention to detail to be so great on a 2.5D game.
It’s amazing, even after hearing countless overlays and mashups, how well music can blend together. Anything other than multiples of 4 in beat counts sounds like noise to the human ear but you wouldn’t think that naturally a drum and bass loop laid over symphonic rhythm would or could sound natural.
P.S. Grey Album
Jaydiohead.
Wow, Makoto looks pretty good in 3D. Almost exactly like her sprite in III.
I’m not a huge player of the Street Fighter anymore, but I’ll probably end up picking this up now ’cause I’m interested.
I listen to a lot of hip hop, (not usually stuff like this, more like the weather or themselves) but the common theme seems to be philosophy and character, So it makes sense that they fit well together because most good video games have such a strong emphasis on character.
Here’s a decent Video game tune by Sole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvAVSb1VpSE
This is actually a more common PR technique than anyone would like…
Haze is another good example of PR that used heavily doctored screenshots. (It primairly made the lighting look way better than it actually did in-game.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeOSWLGKuaE
It’s not rap but I think it was the first real song I heard that was based on video games and I had a major geek out.
From the initial showings of FF13- I can see where you’d say it looks like FF8.
But- more recently, I’d say its looked more and more like FF7 (especially since Lightning is said to be a ‘female cloud’. We’ll see how far they went with that description.
)- at least to me.
That’s not a bad thing though. I’ve never finished either FF7 or 8- but what I have played in both of them I have enjoyed.
Somebody on N4G commented with a video that I really like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo4lu34F2lg
watch it.
Ted, that last video you linked to is incredible.
Very nice, very nice.
Ibuki, Makoto and Juri will be who I’ll play as the most. I relate to the ladies of Street Fighter since I’m a lady myself.
Looks like it’s time to oil up.
Man this is so damn awesome it is sad. The Dudley theme is freaking epic.
When it come to a game about something I experienced in college… I want it to be properly represented. I want the product to be able to compete with its competition. What I don’t want is a great idea ripped apart by a company that builds a bad game. Please go to your local nationwide video game retailer and ask them about BCFX. It was poorly thrown together. BCFX should have been a great alternative for those who want something different from NCAA. It is a great idea for those who want to relive their HBCU college years. A great idea for those who want to an easy intro for teaching kids (and adults) about the wonderful history of HBCUs. Again I stress idea, as Nerjyzed has not made a game worth actually playing. IGN even rated it with a 3.5 out of ten. Go to IGN and research BCFX and the article about the game.
If you build a game and push it toward my culture, please create something that I would be proud to play. I will not recommend this to any of my fellow HBCU (Go to Wikipedia and search HBCU ) graduates and family unless it was in the bargain bin for $5 dollars (brand new) and that still may be too much. When asking the workers at my local national chain video game store their thoughts on BCFX, they were a little hesitant to speak as the title contains “BLACK” (the racial description as opposed to a mood or the color of object). No one who is non-black wants to be seen as possibly racist when talking to customers. If it is a crap game, it is a crap game no matter the title/content. If you are afraid to say it then I will: BCFX: The Black College Football Xperience; The Doug Williams Edition is a crappy game being marketed as if it was made well.
Go to YouTUbe and look up Monique_Show_Spot.mov. The Mo’Nique Show brought two folk on to talk about the game.
It shouldn’t matter that a black woman made the game. If it is crap it is crap. Black businesses suffer enough from the idea/stereotype that they are subpar. Well Nerjyzed has proved the stereotype to be true, in its own way. A human in business should shoot for the stars and pull down planets, regardless of color, sex, or any other factors. Good business can result in a better possibility for a good product. Being the best at whatever you do is what MLK Jr. requested of blacks, so why should anyone expect any less than he did. I don’t care about your struggle in creating a crappy game. Make a movie about it and sell it to Lifetime. I won’t be watching it, I will be on my Xbox playing a game worthy of my time.
Don’t sell me crap and tell me it is golden. I may love the rich culture and tradition of HBCUs, but I WILL NOT disrespect it by endorsing a poorly made product. Furthermore, the game was marketed poorly by not ensuring that more than the target audience was reachable. The fact that many of the gamer blogs were from people who have no idea that HBCUs exist. So naming the title “BLACK COLLEGE FOOTBALL”…was a bad branding move. People who respect the culture of HBCUs should not get mad when gamers reject the title of the game. Blame Nerjyzed for not thinking the title out to the furthest in regards to market branding pros and cons.
Here is some more suggested reading: The Baton Rouge Business Report did an article on Nerjyzed called “Re-Nerjyzed”. A number of former employees gave greater incite into the why the game was sooooooo bad.
Get off that Political Correct crap and call it like you see it.
“I love God of War as a franchise. It strokes my mythology boner”, made me lol. I personally believe it might be a close race as it is far to early to tell who’s going to sell more.I totally agree that DI is a ripoff of GOW, but GOW isn’t exactly 100% original. You use what works, I would rather have a rip off of something that’s time tested to be awesome than them throwing new shit in my face and calling it a game. GOWIII did have some pretty good marketing but DI also got the Super Bowl, and it was loosely based off the divine comedy which has been kickin it since the 14th century. I Personally bought DI because The Divine Comedy was what i studied during my last year of university, and as i said before it was really REALLY loosely based, they took out the boring and added a naked Cleopatra using Marc Anthony as a puppet of doom… fair trade. Time will tell on this one and i hope both seel amazingly well so we can have more awesome sequels to come, anyone with me on that ?.
Also i apologize for butchering grammar, i hope no one out here is a grammar nazi.
Regardless of the doctoring, it still looks like good, visually pleasing game. I can’t says as i’ve been /drooling for this title like most and to be honest i haven’t played anything beyond FFVII. My 4yr addiction to FFXI doesn’t count.. It’s just a case of olde fashioned Yellow Journalism with a dash of laziness. I wouldn’t put it past Microsoft to toss a few dollars to SE for a “Job well done” but i’m not a conspiracy nut. Just a regular nut thank you.
Originally i was going to purchase this title for Xbox, but i decided to go with PS3, why..? Well, i had to justify my buying a PS3 didn’t I? Couldn’t just buy it for FFXIV (/drool).
And finally, who cares what they release for what system? I’m ready for all 3. I like games and good old gaming fun. I never sided with this or that system. Keep putting out good games and i’ll keep shelling out the money, when my g/f says it’s ok to spend.. >.> I guess it’s the Download Content that may be a decider in any of this.
/sigh.. back to pwning gobs in yhoator
I’m going to corkscrew cross the shit out of people!
I love that Dudley is now in this game and that there can finally be Dudley V Balrog battles
I love Hines’ picture. And Cory’s is still good too.
I love that Belisle is Director of Belisle affairs. It’s such a fitting role for him.
And maybe we’ll need to get a new picture of me, because I chopped all my hair off :p
Hines’ picture is awesome. The whole right hand corner has a kind of “Can You Smell What the Golgotronz is cooking.” With the right eyebrow perched in the “The Rock” stance. And I call dibs on being the director of Belisle affairs if Belisle ever bails…
Hey Josh. Nice job sandwiching yourself in there between your girl and Jonah Hill. As director of photography, you should have put the kibosh on the one eyebrow thing after you did it. Having two makes it.. odd.
Good lookin’ group though.
Director of Belisle Affairs was the only title we could give him… honestly its the only thing we can really trust him to be in charge of. And even it’s questionable.
Very nice.
I really need to get a photo with a white background.
My favorite hip-hop/game crossover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s7cntB6ljQ
I really liked the concept that if I made bad decisions then squad members would die, because that’s what being a leader of a team is about. I don’t know that there are any *random* deaths, in the sense that if someone makes the same decisions twice in a row, there will be a different outcome, All of the deaths that may or may not happen, seem to be as a result of decisions you make, if you don’t upgrade your ship, someone is going to die, if the person you send through the shaft isn’t technical enough, or the person leading the second squad, shouldn’t be leading the squad, someone is going to die.
I lost someone because i put the wrong person in charge of the second squad, that was my fault as commander, I liked that, not that he died, but that there was real weight to what I was doing.
I kind of agree with this article. If you look at marketing and sales, DI does have a chance of outselling GoW 3 or coming close to it on the ps3 alone. However, I don’t think will sell over 5M copies. I know UC 2 has sold over 2.8 M in around 5 months, which is good; the problem is that for a game that was highly anticipated and got critical acclaim, 2.8 million units is poor compared to sales from Halo games and other exclusives. There was almost no advertisement for that game as well and as of today, I don’t hear much about UC 2 the way the hype was before release.
The problem is that there is nearly no ads for a particular game or the crowd goes for the safe stuff that they know. It doesn’t matter if a game gets the GotY award and stuff; it won’t do if it doesn’t sell. Some devs complain about how hard it is to crack the wii’s hardcore audience when the same problem applies to the other consoles. Look at Dead Space. That game was critically acclaim and all, but it didn’t brake any sale records. The same applies to The Legend of Zelda series. That series is really popular and whenever a new game is announce, the hype goes to the top. However, those games barely sell 4 to 5 million copies in their life spam. Again, there is nearly no advertisement for that series and Nintendo thinks the way Sony does; that games will sell on name only.
Assassin’s Creed sold a lot because it was multiplatform and because it was heavily advertised by Ubisoft. They bet everything on that game and were rewarded. Assassin’s Creed 2 suffered a major hit; it was released around the time Modern Warfare 2 was hitting the shelves. If gamers had a choice, they would pick MW 2 over AC 2. That’s mostly due to some disappointments the first AC brought with it. It’s a shame really because I played MW 2 and I didn’t like the single player campaign and the online multiplayer was nothing revolutionary (CoD 4 was better); BUT, Assassin’s Creed 2’s story is in a whole other level. It’s really engaging and they kept their word of “variety.” Sadly it will not break any sale records either.
As for Dante’s Inferno… WTF? Ok, I admit that the GoW series is badass and i love it to death, but let’s get something clear, Kratos did not invent the Greek Gods and the bloody death matches! You guys say that DI is a rip off of the GoW games. So then, is it fair to say that the GoW series is a rip off of the animemated series Ulysses 31 and Saint Seiya? Those two series talk about wars and conflicts against the Greek Gods and were created long before most of us were born. Also, have you heard of Conquer Bad Fur Day? Even though it was animated violence, you could tear your enemies apart in that game in gruesome ways, and it was an N64 game. Remember the old Mortal Kombat games? Yeah, those were pretty hardcore games, too. You see some sequential moments were you press a button and you say it’s a GoW rip off. You think that Kratos own everything when you don’t even know your history. I did play the demo for Dante’s Inferno, and even though I agree that the gameplay was a bit choppy, I felt that the ideas were more refreshing that the GoW 3 demo. I’m getting DI this weekend and GoW 3 for sure when it comes out. Btw, DI is still in the best selling games chart at gamestop. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ll go play some Valkyria Chronicles before going to bed. Cheers!
This stallion cannot be tamed.
I actually just discovered something. There are times when character are fighting with eachother on the ship. Like when Miranda and Jack are going at it. If you don’t use your paragon or renegade speech skill to make them stop that apparently can have an effect during the end of the game. Same with the tussle between Tali and Legion.
If I knew we were allowed to make angry toughguy faces, I would have tossed out the “mexican prison” face. Oh well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gE-ihY_EG0&feature=fvw
its all about Fresh Daily – Video Gamin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-unwJpL0w
ITS OK I’M ALREADY BANT!!!
Yes if you don’t use your paragon or renegade speech you will lose the loyalty of whomever you side with.
I’ll be buying it on both consoles to support Square but considering the weight and comfort of the Xbox controller (with chatpad) and the sharpness of these screens over the highly antialiased PS3 ones, I’ll probably play it on 360. Oh, and P.S., not that it needed them but you did label them by putting ALT tags on the images.
Honestly, I don’t even see a graphical difference, but I haven’t broken out the full resolution images and magnifying glass. I’m still in the who-the-fuck-cares camp on this issue, but considering this game is all about story, I’d expect you to be more upset about the script than anything else. When are you gonna rant about the fact that the two versions, as seen in your comparison shots, don’t even share the same text?
Oh yeah, and SubjectNameHere is an idiot. You’re gonna buy both versions to ’support the company’?! Why not just send them a check? Buy two copies of the preferred version and give one to a friend (hell, buy more… how ’bout a baker’s dozen)? Send them a picture of your girlfriend’s boobs? Anything would be less insulting than thinking you’re going to buy a disc you know you’ll never use.
Hey, Money is money, vote w/ your wallet… And if you want to see more Final Fantasy, then I say go ahead and buy 12 copies of the game(I wont be however). Apparently Square Enix realizes this too – according to Square Enix’s Vice President Shinji Hashimoto said that there will be no new Chrono Trigger releases(so far) because of inadequate sales from the DS re-release in 2008 he said, “If people want a sequel, they should buy more!”(March 2010 Game Informer)
Alon’s Got a point but I dont think your an idiot for supporting your passions, if your sole purpose is to support the company then a check to 2-13-7. Meguro Tokkyu Bldg. 4F Shinagawa-ku. Tokyo, 141-0021, In Care of : Give me more FF please Department, would probably be more efficient. By buying retail you support your local retailer, Distributers, Oil/shipping companies for logistics, Sony/Microsoft, ect, ect.
I like Final Fantasy, so please go buy more! OH an please go buy 1000 copies of Chrono Trigger for DS too please, I could go for another one of those too.
PS: my captcha is ‘And Alcohols’…. legitimate
Screenshots or not.. It’s common sense that the hardware inside a PS3 is a Premium grade while the 360 is Up there it’s just not the same.. BLURAY alone makes graphics and movies look insane. And with BLURAY discs you can fit twice as much information which means you can make things higher quality. Just saying
Wow, Alon. Your reputation as a pretentious asshole precedes you. I didn’t literally mean I wanted to give Mr. Square my currency. I meant I’d like to add a +1 to domestic PS3 sales by giving Amazon my currency. I regularly buy extra copies of the same game so my friends can play.
If you must know, I do have copies of some games on both PS3 and 360 where it makes sense or where I have friends on both networks who prefer playing one over the other. About fifty of the Xbox 360 games I own haven’t been played or opened and probably will never get played unless Jorge borrows them, but I still want them in my collection because they’re worth owning. Hell, I even buy every decent PS3 exclusive and haven’t played a single one because I can’t stand the chintzy controller. So yes, I frequently buy discs I don’t use. I have over a hundred blu-rays I haven’t watched and may never get to because I hate watching movies alone. I have ten of the Street Fighter TE sticks because I like collecting the different versions.
To each his own I guess.
@Timothy, I first started replying to your comment wanting to point out that you clearly have no idea what you are talking about and go into details of the Xbox 360 and PS3 hardware and also tell you how Blu-ray has literally nothing to do with graphical quality of a video game.
However, I have determined that you are simply trolling and that you suck. I just wanted to let you know.
Wow. That’s some good hostility you got there. I remember Black being unbelievably over-hyped and over-marketed but it wasn’t terrible. For the designer to say he’s bored with FPS would have to mean he has some idea for improving the genre or at least the facet of gameplay dedicated to cover. The problem is that Infinity Ward has spent way too much time and effort researching their efforts to have missed some major “fun” part of cover based campaigns. Did Stuart Black make any mention of what he plans to bring to the table or did he just talk shit and run?
For what it’s worth, Codemasters has kindled a small interest in that they’ve made or published some pretty damn solid and very well presented driving / racing games lately (FUEL aside). I believe they made the Overlord games as well as that Argonauts mess last year but if they’re going to try to throw their hat into the already saturated FPS market, they better have more to go on than Stuart Black.
I agree that Black wasn’t terrible, but it was completely mediocre. There wasn’t anything in the game that hadn’t been done before aside from having ridiculously over-sized bullet hole textures.
When I think about it, Modern Warfare isn’t really a good example against his point of cover based shooters because MW isn’t a cover based shooter. Gears of War, Uncharted, and even Mass Effect are though.
Gears of War pretty much made the cover system in shooters the thing to do for this generation of games, so I would say it was pretty innovative and I think both Gears games were plenty of fun. I haven’t played Uncharted but everybody seems to agree that Uncharted 2 was the GOTY. Mass Effect 2 has had plenty of critical acclaim as well. The shooting mechanics blend with the RPG elements of the game very well. The game requires a nice balance of strategy and skill.
I am all for developers wanting to make games better and better but when a guy that made an OK game at the end of the console’s life cycles talks shit about some of the best games we have seen and call them boring then he better have something to back him up. Right now he is all talk and no show.
The PS3 has a better graphics card.. Nvidia vs ATI?.. Come on now. -_- The 360 can never make games that look close to or as good as Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 and now, GOD OF WAR 3. The 360’s done for man..Halo HALO HALO HALO.. GEARS GEARS GEARS.
@Jonathan, please don’t comment unless you are going to say something half-way intelligent. You aren’t seriously going to boil down the systems graphical capabilities down to “Nvidia vs ATI”.
The PS3’s CPU is more powerful when it comes to floating point operations per second but the Xbox 360 destroys when it comes to general computing power.
In regards to the GPUs, there is a bit of back and forth. Both the Xbox 360’s Xenos and the PS3’s RSX are clocked at 500MHz. The Xenos has 48 Unified Pipelines where the RSX has 24 Pixel Shader pipelines 8 vertex shader pipelines, and 8 pixel rendering pipelines. The advantage with the 360 is that there is more flexibility in how to use the pipelines based on the games needs.
The PS3’s GPU can render a maximum of 250 Million triangles per second where the Xenos can render 500 million triangles per second. The RSX has the advantage in overall operations per second since its pipelines are more efficient. The RSX can do a total of 136 ops where the Xenos can do a total of 96 ops.
One main advantage of the Xenos is its 10MB eDRAM daughter-die with its 256GB/s bandwidth. This allows the Xenos to apply a 4x MSAA with no effect to overall performance and offers a great frame buffer. The RSX is only able to do 2x MSAA and it is at a performance cost.
The overall memory bandwidth on the Xenos is slightly higher than the RSXs as well. On top of that the RSX has 256MB of dedicated RAM where the Xbox 360 has 512MB of shared RAM. This potentially allows for a developer to allow the GPU more RAM if required if it isn’t needed on the CPU end. In terms of overall GPU performance, the Xenos is better.
But the Cell CPU of the PS3 saves the day in the end, if the developer uses it. The bandwidth between the Cell and the RSX is 32GB/s, plenty fast. A developer can potentially offload all of the vertex processing onto the Cell Processor and allow the GPU to handle all the heavy lifting of the pixel processing. The Xbox 360 CPU does not have this ability.
True, Gears and ME actually have cover systems but my point was that the experience of requiring cover feels more important in MW and Borderlands because you can’t just hit a button to do it, and because of that brings a bit more immersion to the experience. Having said that, you’re totally right about what he was referring to.
Glad your version of the article went up before Destructoid’s.
Bob Hoskins probably lumped Super Mario Bros. into the same category as Hook and Roger Rabbit as “just another kids’ movie”. He probably had no idea the error of his ways.
Hollywood has very few original screenplays that can match the money brought in on movies based on popular culture. That’s part of the problem. Comic book fans who don’t go see action/sci-fi/horror films are probably in the minority, so if you have a large enough existing fanbase to tap into and get guaranteed ticket sales out of, you have a much better chance of getting your project pushed through regardless of quality. As long as people vote with their dollar and go see these train-wrecks, they’ll keep making them. What they seem to be learning now is that Ironman and Dark Knight can make so much more money when they’re good, that maybe they should just make more good movies.
The issue to me is not that Hollywood doesn’t know how to adapt the material, but rather they have a nearly insurmountable task of trying to capture the experience you got playing your favorite game and emulating it on the screen. With comics, books, and other printed media, you have a look and an attitude to capture. With games you have emotional response based on an engaging personal experience. Not to say people don’t get emotionally vested in what they read, but it’s not the same as actually controlling the action yourself. The other aspect is time. Few directors can take twenty or thirty hours of memorable gameplay and squeeze it adequately into two hours of film. If you were able to complete Mass Effect, Halo, Zelda, Dead Space, etc., in two hours or less, would you have such a bond with the characters or the storylines? They usually don’t try to condense decades of comic story arcs into one movie, and most games don’t have enough independent arcs that stand on their own enough to fit into cinema.
I always wondered if they stripped out and changed around a few things from the Lord of the Rings movies and called it Final Fantasy, what I would have thought of it.
Good article, btw.
While I can tell the difference between the two screenshots, I am not sure how I am supposed to be certain which one is for which console.
So..you can keep $5 of your bet, I guess.
Yup. That is how I lost Miranda. Everyone else made it though. Here’s to Playthrough #2!
I imagine if I got my paragon/renegade high enough afterwards, I’d be able to reclaim her loyalty.
As for the suicide mission, and choosing certain party members to do stuff, I thought that was awesome. But now I wonder how well the results would have varied, and if it wasn’t just a case of pass/fail, live/die.
Geoff writes long walks on the beach? Huh?
I am actually quite frustrated with ME2 right now. I just completely my Insanity difficulty playthrough today and didn’t get the achievement for it.
I did all recruiting and loyalty before I did the IFF mission. Then I recruited Legion, then I did his loyalty mission. At this point it does the whole scene where the Normandy gets attacked and then you make the decision to go after them. So I went straight ahead and did the final mission.
HALF OF MY CREW DIED, including the amazing Kelly Chambers. Chalkwas told me that I was too late. I want to know how the fuck I could have done it any faster. Honestly, on my first playthrough I had only done about 4 of the loyalty quests before the IFF was activated. Instead of chasing after the reapers I finished a bunch of side quests. On that playthrough the entire crew survived.
this makes no logical sense at all.
I think that MW2 does in fact use quite a bit of tactical/ cover-based game play. Play MW/MW2 on the harder difficulties, or try to play decent multiplayer without an understanding of what objects/surfaces provide sufficient cover for various weapon types. I think that maybe you are confusing the godawful caliber of players MW2 seems to attract with what the game offers. It has a pretty well implemented cover system. (grenade/claymore shrapnel scatter patterns work like they do in real life, IE targets in prone will take less of the shrapnel at increasing distance for fucks sake)
Furthermore, saying that GoW did anything for cover-based game play ever is an uneducated statement. All that stuff was done before multiple generations back just as well. (Kill.Switch/ Rogue Trooper/ Winback/ Syphon Filter respectively)
I would go as far as to say it is the most poorly implemented example of cover-based 3rd person shooting mechanics based off of the numerous glitches that resulted in it’s poor execution. (see crab walking) I do think it is fun and certainly looks really cool, but it is obviously dumbed down for the masses and ALSO started that “one button for EVERYTING” BS game design theory.
I would have to look at the Brothers In Arms games as the quintessential example of tactical (squad/cover based) game play. I would most likely even use the Medal of Honor series of a good example of game play that rewarded a more methodical cover-based method of interaction. (especially with that rubber-band aim lock that REALLY should be looked into more. It works, just refine it.)
Anyway, yes, Black was mediocre but the blow everything up aspect was at least pretty cool. Unless you played Red Faction 1 or 2. which were better games.
it says UR MI AY now
SubjectNameHere: Since you seem to have too much money, how about giving some of it away?
Specifically, to Ben Heckendorn. For $750 you could get him to make you a PS3 controller you’ll actually like. Or, you could just leave your games on the shelf unopened, next to your ten fight sticks. Your choice.
http://benheck.com/11-29-2008/ps360-controller-from-dual-shock-3
The only way this Mr. Black guy can have the balls to make such a statement is if he is headding up the design team for Half Life 3. Then I would say his bravado is legitimate.
Which BTW… Valve… If your listening… Make Half Life 3. Or at least HL2: Episode 3.
corky842: Oh I’m quite familiar with Ben Heck. If that controller were, say, $100 and I didn’t have OCD about using first party controllers, I’d be all over it. It’s nice. I played Heavy Rain on a Dual Shock 3 with the chat pad on it and it felt better I guess. It just feels too light.
I don’t see what’s so confusing about being a collector. I have every US released Dreamcast game and peripheral along with a bunch of import stuff and a half dozen DC consoles. I liked the Dreamcast. I like the 360. I like Street Fighter and TE sticks. I have two PSP Gos I rarely if ever use. I just like collecting game stuff that I like.
Great Article! I have already read this type of thing a few times (as you said “cliche”) but none have summed it up quite as nice as this.
I disagree with subjectname on his second point; I don’t think of adapting games as an insurmountable task. There are a lot of games that have a more linear experience with a very established tone and cinematic style. I think Hollywood is just being stupid.
Funny, my glasses fog up too when Cory’s around… and I don’t even wear glasses.
I said *nearly* insurmountable. I agree it can be done but it isn’t common because it’s a pretty tall order and there isn’t really a highly set bar yet. Being better than Hitman or Tomb Raider shouldn’t be as difficult as they make it seem.
It’s understandable, I am pretty.
It was a hot tub. Glasses got steamy.
Cory is not as pretty as he claims XD
My contacts got steamy. On the real.
I think the problem is, games are meant to be played. It doesn’t make sense to most of us to buy something just to own it. You’re turning something meant to be experienced into an object. It would be like buying a movie ticket and instead of using it to watch the movie in the theater, you keep it intact and unused, frame it, and put it on your wall.
If the weight and not Sony’s controllers being designed for tiny hands that’s the issue, crack that bad boy open and glue some lead weights in there or something.
I am somewhat confused as to why it is so difficult to understand that someone may want to collect something. I really don’t see anything wrong with collecting games or for that matter buying multiple copies of a game it the need for them exists. I know Eric personally and, although he DOES have a lot of games he doesn’t play, he DOES eventually get around to playing most of it. Most of it being, substantially more than most game players and, oddly enough, in less time. That being said, I have bought multiple copies of plenty of games but only a few times ones I didn’t open, but they were mostly for collecting and I never felt it was odd in the slightest. It extends to my action figure buying habits as well, as I will be multiples of a figure I really like, just so I can have one in my personal collection, and one at work. (If I really like the mold, or the character Etc.) As it stands I bought something like 15 + G.I. Joe 25th Anniversary Crimson Guards, and I don’t regret the purchase in the slightest, as they were my favorite figure from the set.
To each their own, he isn’t hurting anyone and it ALWAYS helps to have lots of arcade sticks, especially when they are as good as those TE sticks.
Dodged that bullet.
After playing the GOW3 demo, this article matters even less (if possible). After my xbox red ringed I bought a ps3 out of spite and I’m damn glad that I did. The demo wasn’t anything unexpected, but it was such a great “Fuck you” to all the clones out there (such as Dante’s Inferno), not only is GOW3 going to destroy copycats, its going to piss on them, call their mothers whores and show them how to hang.
Also, Dante’s inferno is a ripoff of GOW because it uses the SAME GAME MECHANICS. Play both before making a comment elgato_8569, DI COMPLETELY copies a ton of gameplay elements, completely forgetting that there is a shit load of people out there who actually play video games and have the very basic ability of being able to call out a piece of shit when they see it. This article sucked so much it hurts, fire this person.
Ha wow, that was pretty interesting. I like the idea of having game culture articles/ videos. I have to admit that the guy in the space helmet looked like a total Dweebinheimer. I really like the music and I took a listen on their site. It was interesting. Keep this kinda stuff coming.
Idc that ffXIII is on XBOX. I love my PS don’t get me wrong, but GAMES: XBOX has had a load of better games lately. PS has been going with mainstream crap. PERFORMANCE: XBOX can be shady, but PSN screws up constantly and consistently and my sis’s PS died two days ago. QUALITY: complain all you want but they are both GOOD consoles. Anyone who refuses to see that is simply immature. DLCs: XBOX is better, hands down. Get over it. I’m happy that everyone can now enjoy FF because b4 it was strictly PS because 360 was out and SONY was still at PS2. now everyone can experience it. Move on okay? “I’m just sayin.”
Cory is pretty legit.
I too can vouch for his legitimacy!
You know as chairman of Sony, I could probably put you in touch with our video marketing department… I like your style THAT MUCH!
Thanks for talking over me, Rich! :p
Thanks for covering this man, this site is p. sweet
This, even as fucking awesome as it is, seems like a logical next step for Halo multiplayer. See, a “bomb” to me would have been something a little more epic. Something like MAG level 256 player skirmish with Bungie quality multiplayer. I could be wrong but I’m kinda tired of companies telling me to take a seat and prepare myself for something that isn’t all that mind blowing. Capcom told me to wait until a megaton announcement to find out it was Bionic Commando. Why set yourself up for a potential fizzle when your shizzle is the real dizzle?
I give it a meh.
I skipped halo 3 and ODST because I was so disappointed in 2. but I’m actually kind of excited for this one.
Its about time Bungie actually worked the co-op nature of the halo campaign into the narrative and as for the multilayer, well this video looks pretty fun…. I’m almost sold
Hey, it’s Tribes 2.
It’s only taken nine years for other FPSs to catch up with T2’s level of gameplay.
I’ve got to be honest… while it looks fun I’m not really blown away by anything I’m seeing. It just looks like Halo 3.5 multiplayer. Am I wrong?
These photos scream class and champagne!
Hines is lookin’ pretty sexy there. I’m impressed.
so basically you don’t want old games on demands but want newier titles:/
Don’t you think that stupid and another stupid @ss generous way to give Microsoft money?
Oh yea I forgot there are lots of idiotic xbots who are so royal to Microsoft and will always give their money to them by buying their bullsh* products!
We want rare titles on demand!
Rare titles cost £100-£400, we can get it on Demand just for £30.
Another way developers make money is by releasing their old games to next gen consoles.
Sonic Adventure on Xbox Live, seriously, who da hell would wanna play for that sh* again?
Sonic Adventure on
*Dreamcast
*PC
*Gamecube
Now they want to release it on Xbox Live, same bullcrap with no improvement? just Achievements and some leaderboard crap.
Don’t forget people who still have their original copies and SEGA did ship TONS of the Dreamcast version.
I want old games that are worth having again, and new games that publishers are not even sending anymore products to game shops.
no ofence but releasing games sooner and in beta form rather than later and in gold is quite retarded
and releasing dlc cut out of the game the first week ewen more so
microsoft should just learn to make good 1st party games for a price of 40
and thats it
I think one of the biggest problems is that the games come out at completely uncompetitive prices. They’re about half the RRP when they’re first released, but in the shops you can often get them much less, meaning GoD seems completely redundant.
I think one of the biggest problems is that the games come out at completely uncompetitive prices. They’re about half the RRP when they’re first released, but in the shops you can often get them much less, meaning GoD seems completely redundant
It’s late and I’m tired and I’ve just finished reading all of these whiney posts from what sound like to me is a bunch of hardcore playstation fans upset that their beloved playstation sold the rights for FF to microsoft in the first place and now need to defend the honor of their beloved playstation by microscopically looking at every minute, miniscule detail they can bitch about. WHO CARES I used to be a PS2 and PS1 gamer, and have always been a FF fan the last one I played was FFX. The reason I bought X-Box was because they offered more bang for the buck at the time and I’m glad FF expanded to other consols because it gives me the chance to play one of my favorite titles again even if the lightning looks a little less sharp I’m still going to play the game because I enjoy playing the game and not picking apart how well the weeds look in the grass. But please don’t let this stop your rants. I’m sure 2 or 3 more people can repeat themselfs for you after this.
So you want new games sold cheaper than retail prices with dlc included? Hell why dont you ask them to wipe your arse while your at it? Try and grasp some understanding of feasibilty before writing article like this.
Who the hell actually buys game from this Games on Demand bs.
COD2 is on there for like $30. At my local gamestop you can get that for $10 maybe cheaper.
Girls go crazy for a sharp dressed man.
As amusing as it is to see early predictions on whether a game will be good or not before its released- I’d say this statement is a bit hasty right now…
We haven’t seen much info on the game yet- so its quality could still go either way.
Sure- Sonic Team’s recent track record makes it understandably hard to be optimistic at all for Sonic 4- but it can’t hurt to stay optimistic sometimes… Right?
Maybe Sonic can still do well in 2D- just maybe…
So I think we should wait at the very least until more info is shown on Sonic 4… THEN- we will actually have some grounds upon which to assume the worst… 
(Or best! Sonic Team could surprise us… 
)
It certainly sounds like the selection of modes is going to be pretty good.
What was the exact nature of Bungie’s ‘bomb’ though? There doesn’t seem anything THAT big or new in here…
Well- if you compare these two like this…
There’s one major difference: Super Mario Bros has fewer plot holes than Heavy Rain does…
Or does it?
…
Oh dears… I’m not actually contemplating actual investigation of this- am I?
I would really like to see games on demand flourish, as it would benefit developers quite a bit while increasing selection in the games markeplace. That being said, it has to be done in a way that doesn’t undermine the work developers put into extra content. I don’t need the content for free. A discount at purchase is fine, but keep in mind, the revenue from this kind of stuff pays salaries. I think the suitable solution is to offer the games shortly after their release based on how the games are selling in the wild. Games like AC2 and BL are doing well, but are for the most part, passed their initial selling push. I could agree with them being on the GOD serive but they need to be at a discounted rate and come with digital versions of the included content, IE I want a viewer that lets me see a digital version of the instruction booklet and the sleeve. I also think that extra content in the form of art, articles, commentary would be helpful. Ultimately, there needs to be a reason to buy it in digital format as people are still quite fond of having the actual product in hand as it is mush more usable for lending/taking to a friends house etc. (SF4, Tekken 6 are more suitable as physical product because of the nature of head to head competitive gaming)As long as I don’t feel the negative aspects of digital ownership I am all for this, but I want more for less because I KNOW it will be costing the developers less to move the product to me. If we agree to cut out the middleman, there needs to be some sort of incentive.
Wow. Allow me to step around the garbage comments laying around here.
So Games on Demand does little for me as someone who enjoys the physical material involved in purchasing goods, however I see a few ways that would make it relevant to me.
1) Explore creating a game rental service. The demo system is hugely popular on Xbox, so expand on it. Allow games to be rented for MS Points at a reasonable rate, then give me the option to keep it if I like it by paying the difference.
2) Make them competitively priced. Make me think about whether the case, disc, or manual, are worth whatever the difference is between retail an GoD pricing. After a few weeks or a month or so, start keeping a close eye on GameStop’s used game price. Since (somehow) GameStop is selling millions upon millions (upon millions) of used games a year, it’s apparent that people are buying them. Make those people question if it’s worth it to go get upsold and talked down to in order to save a buck or two against GoD on a used disc in a sticker infested case.
3) Compete with your biggest competitors. I’d consider them, in this market specifically, to be GameStop and Amazon. Yeah they don’t have a store built into the Xbox, but they’ll mop the floor with GoD in terms of sales. Amazon gives me free release date delivery (via Prime) and about 10-15% off retail on day one. They also provide pre-order bonuses. GameStop can undersell you after a week or two due to the high influx of trade-ins. Take those factors and position GoD to at least match what they’re doing. Sell new games at launch and get some old classics on there for a no-brainer cost. Sony’s top 10 most sold games on PSN include several hard-to-find PS2 titles.
4) Consider storage constraints. These games take a good while to download and they take up a considerable amount of storage. Instead of charging an ungodly amount for proprietary hard drives enclosures, start selling a DIY kit that comes with a voucher for a GoD game. As well as the Xbox is doing, there’s still no reason not to match what Sony is doing right in having access to PSN games on Amazon and Target and allowing users to swap out their HDDs to allow for better storage.
If all these things happened, I’d have no choice but to look at GoD as something other than a NXE blade I look at for novelty’s sake.
In regards to what Jorge posted, I think the rental system would serve well enough as a system for “lending” a digital copy of a game but one thing I would like to see is something similar to the library feature demoed on the iPad that shows your bookcase of digital titles. This should include your XBLA and GoD purchases, and maybe someday your installed titles from your physical collection.
Wow I really can’t believe how biased and asinine some of your views are. To start, don’t assume you understand or can even being to predict with any accuracy, the tastes of the gaming populous. Many people still play old games, I recently “dusted off your Genesis or hell even bought one the old titles on the current generation of consoles download services” and had quite a bit of fun. Don’t generalize and assume that the quality of a game is based on its age. There are still quite a bit of games that did it right back in the 90’s and stand strong as great gaming experiences regardless of their age. Good game design elements can pass the test of time.
It sounds like your knowledge of the franchise is somewhat suspect, make sure you research your material well before making such pointed arguments.
*Edited for niceness.
@spartacus, I actually am a fan of the Xbox 360 and enjoy it quite a bit.
The reason I wrote this article initially is because Square was releasing screenshots of a game that weren’t real screenshots. It makes me angry and frustrated when publishers and developers try to pass something off as a screenshot when it isn’t.
I am going to have to disagree with you on pretty much your whole article.
First, I am very excited about Sonic 4. First, it is being developed by Dimps. They have a good track record of making the 2D Sonic Advance games on the GBA a lot of fun. Dimps also co-developed Street Fighter IV if that gives them any street cred.
I also disagree that they would want a new Sonic game to be anything like New Super Mario Bros. Wii. The reason they are making Sonic 4 is the same reason Capcom made Mega Man 9 and are working on 10. They are obviously catering to a “hardcore” audience and hope it works out. NSMBW is more of a fun time party game, this is not what Sonic 4 is going to be.
Don’t get me wrong, Sonic 4 might come out and be a terrible game. But I think the fact that they are even making it is a great sign that they are finally listening to what people have been screaming at them to do for the past 5-10 years.
You know, I have Sonic 2 on XBLA, I think I might have to go re-download that and give it a “spin”.
Ah- I just remembered… Another reason we can’t assume on Sonic 4’s quality yet:
Sonic’s been doing just fine on handhelds- he’s had a number of well-recieved 2D games on the DS… So keep that in mind.
Sorry but I also have to completely disagree here. They haven’t shown nearly enough of the game to make these type of statements and I also think that discrediting Sonic 4 because its a download title sounds ridiculous, especially since its an episodic game.
Speaking of old school Sonic, Anyone who would like a quick nostalgia fix go to playsega.com right now & sign up for a free 4 day trial. It’s actually pretty sweet, while its free.
what? I have no idea what i just read.
I’m so amused, yet confused, …….so this is more of a story than opinion piece, right?
or does Musroom=tripto?
Seriously, who cares. The console wars ended a long time ago.
There needs to be an age gate on this erotic tale.
Back in my day, Slurpees came in red and blue…. AND THATS IT!
My favorite Slurpee will always be the Coca Cola flavored one. Mmm-mmm tasty.
But when that’s not available, give me Cherry. Or red flavor. Yes, red is a flavor.
I am going to go out on a limb and say that I have never had an actual Slurpee before. I have had plenty of ICEEs in the day, but we never had 7-Elevens where I growing up. ICEEs are cooler anyways because there is an awesome polar bear on the machine and cups.
@NamelessTed:
You’re not alone- I don’t think I’ve ever really had a Slurpee before either…
By the way- I just have to say that those pictures of you trying the slurpee are quite cute Molly.
Just had to add that little detail…
I like this piece, however there is a distinct reason that more people are enjoying video games these days and why consoles are becoming a necessary appliance in everyone’s home. The fact that you can go play a game that is like a book is optional, which broadens the medium’s availablity. If Final Fantasy 4, the game that ultimately got me hooked on videogames was not emotionally engadging and had a specific story/message it wanted to convey I might not have continued on to FF6. (Final Fantasy 4 Spoiler ahead!! lol) If someone told me that Palom/Porum were going to turn themselves into stone to save the rest of the characters, the overall experience of that moment would be deminished.
One of the biggest jokes in spoliers period is the 6th Sense spoiler, “Bruce willis is also dead! It was crazy!” I found this fact out before I saw it, and to this date I have not seen it. Had I might have not known that very important fact I may have watched it.
The fact that people MIGHT get so upset about spoilers is because they do not want their experience deminished with their connection they are making with the medium. Enjoyment factor for many is the main reason people play games, watch movies, and even read books. Games are becoming too sophistocated to be pidgeonholed into a series of button pressing sequences with little or no emotional attachment. While there are many games that are perfect in their own right by jumping on turtle shells. There are others that are perfect following you down the rabbit hole in an adventure that has plot twists and story elements that make the most impact when they shock an audience.
While its a pain in the ass to continue to see Spoiler alerts in articles and blog posts. I applaud their sensitivity to those looking to get the most from their gaming experiences.
And in regards to Metroid – How shocking was it when you found out Samus was a female for the first time, I remember that for some reason being quite impactful…
Why does everytime I see or hear about a slurpee I think of that fantastic and epic Pauly Shore movie Encino Man where Brenden Fraiser “Weezes the Juice” and drinks straight from the machine… I think I just added something to the bucket list.
I do agree about the compulsion that story has in gaming. As I wrote this piece, I remembered how I hid from the internet a month after Metal Gear Solid 4 was released, and how much I loved it’s conclusion after I played it last January (I had to buy a PS3 and stuff).
I really want to see more games that try to give the player an emotional reaction through pushing buttons. There are some games that do this, but there are more that narrate with cutscenes. Examples of what I’m talking about are games like Braid, Today I Die, and Flower.
Learning that Samus was a female was a big deal. It was a twist that had never been done in gaming before. In fact, that’s probably a great example of an in-game spoiler. After learning Samus was a chick, did that make you play the game any differently?
To quote Rich:
“SPOILER! Kratos dies.”
The image is exactly the same because its THE SAME IMAGE!
the only difference that some one photohopped either the L2 or LB in..
What sounds more logical.. Lets razor this.. “occam’s razor google it”
Running the game on 2 different engines With 2 different Graphic cards EACH processing data Differently with 2 exactly the same timings “fps has to be an EXACT match to do this”.
Capturing Exactly the same frame in wich the game has progressed exactly the same With all the statistical probable outcomes!.
OR B
some guy FIXED the l1/LB Icon with photoshop..
The simpelest solution is usualy the correct one
Games on Demand is an excuse for M$ to rape you for every penny. They won’t be happy until they have all the fucking money so they can spend it on whores, drugs, guns and killing little black kids.
CUNTS !!!
Thanks for the comments everyone. I understand where you guys are coming from but I must back up my opinion here. I see what you are getting at with Capcom and the new Megaman games but those are complete games. There is no to be continued with those two games. What they are doing with the episodic content here would be the equivalent of paying $5 for the first 4 bosses and then asking you to pay another $5 at another time for the last 4 bosses in Megaman. You finish the first episode then you are prompted to insert $10 to continue. My point here is that if the sum of all of the content they are eventually going to create is going to be that good, why not put it all together in one package on store shelves?
I also still play old games. My SNES is currently hooked up to a 42″ Sony LCD, a far cry from the 19″ tube TV it was hooked up to when I was a kid. However I literally had to dust off my Sonic Mega Collecion for the Gamecube when I heard this game was coming out. I was excited as you all appear to be to hear about a new 2D Sonic game but I was disappointed to find that my childhood memories did not live up to what I was playing now as an adult. Good game design does stand the test of time but these games did not age well in my opinion. I should have included this all in the original article but in the interest of keeping it to the point, I did not.
I would love to see these games do well and if they do I will be the first to admit that I was wrong. However, I am keeping my expectations in check.
“If people want a story-heavy experience, read a book.”
I couldn’t agree more. The final minutes of Fable 2 comes immediately to mind. I was very disappointed to say the least. Video games are meant to be an interactive medium. Books and movies are supposed to fill in these other types of experiences.
I find myself in agreement with the writer. Remember, this article stands from the point of nostalgia, and plainly put, the new spins on Sonic do little to evince those feelings of gaming glory from the days of yore. Mario games have remained faithful to their traditions and despite change from platform to platform.
Mario saves the Princess. No complications and easy to reproduce without overworking the concept.
Sonic saves his cybernetically entrapped friends. Hmmm. This is a bit more difficult to keep simple.
What we see is that Nintendo was wise in keeping its premise incredibly basic, but the world of Sonic has this strange expectation to explain more of its world as technology and expectations of games exponentially increases.
Sadly, the more we find out about Sonic’s world, the more dated and outright lame the premise seems.
Even look at the cartoons. Mario cartoons were always simplistic, but the Sonic cartoon (the original) tried to create a more dramatic world with a sinister villain. Sadly, it came off as weirdo-furry central to public at large. They attempted to make it more lighthearted (a la Mario), but even that failed and fell by the wayside.
While it’s nice that Sega is attempting to return to their roots, I would argue it’s a bit too late for many big Sonic fans. Sonic, plainly put, just doesn’t have the timeless quality of Mario and each new game that comes out seems to be a ripoff of Nintendo’s iconic mascot. Sonic isn’t even an icon of a console, but a simply a defeated company.
I think putting Sonic to rest and having Sega focus on collaborations more intensively would serve to make better quality games that don’t dishonor the nostalgia of aging gamers.
Thanks for ruining Zelda for me, dude.
I think I’m in a different boat, here. I’m kind of for this game, but I’m also against the game. If you look at games like Mega Man 9 and 10 you can definitely see why this might seem like the right move for the Sonic franchise. They haven’t been able to succeed in making the leap to next gen, so maybe we go back to the way we used to do it and make a Sonic game that will appeal to gamers the way the series used to. 2D, and fast paced. I’m for the idea, because I think that some games were better when they were simpler.
But, I think the real argument here is why haven’t they been able to make the proper step to next gen with this character? Mario has done it every possible way and some have been successful and some have been piss poor. Sonic doesn’t have nearly the track record with EVERY SINGLE NEXT GEN TITLE he’s been the star of being ripped a part by critics and fans alike. Sure, it may have taken a while, but Mario eventually got to the Wii and made gamers and critics rejoice with Super Mario Galaxy with some critics saying it to be the best Mario game since Super Mario Bros 3. Is Sonic just that second tier of a character that his game play style and characterization just can’t translate to Next Gen? Or is this simply a case of every Sonic game being a cash grab and no developers have really been given the time, or resources to make Sonic the Next Gen hero he can be? I’m inclined to think the latter. I think that if Sonic had been given the effort, and time that Super Mario Galaxy had been given, he could have made the transition to Next Gen. I think that taking a step back to 2D is definitely probably going to produce a decent game, but I think you can also look at it as the Sonic franchise throwing in the towel and giving up on making a game that will really blow people away. Oh, and fuck Sega.
why dont you stop complaining and let them advertise?
I am all for this game, but also would like to see Sega get the 3d sonic right. A majority of Sonic Teams inability to do sonic right has been because of their desire to expand the Sonic franchise beyond its scope. Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2 proved 3d sonic could be done, but there is a specific formula that needs to be followed and any steering away from that formula results in half-assed games. Sonic Unleashed is a great example of this. Sonic Team focuses on 3d rails based movement with branching level design, throws in some classic enemy/movement patterns/ attack techniques and you have 1/2 of a fantastic game. But then they add in some BS “night time” beat em’ up levels and then you have a problem. What your left with is 1 half of the game being bad ass daytime levels which, by all accounts are awesome as hell even after being rushed and shoehorned into a bad game, and 1 half of a game that is just BS filler. 50% of a game being good is still failing, despite how fun the daytime levels were.
What really sucks is that Sega can do this, they just need to settle down and get it done. That being said, the Sonic franchise also needs to exist in 2D because its roots are there and the formula works incredibly well in that format. It is a great format for handheld market and online/XBL/PSN/WII ware markets. There is nothing wrong with Sega giving the 2D stuff to Dimps indefinitely and having Sonic Team redouble efforts and make Sonic a staple in 3d adventure/old school style twitch gaming. Seriously, Sega’s got 1/2 the recipe right…
Fuck Sega? Really? Youth….
Bless you, staff and commentators of Golgotron for calling them what they are – Slurpees!
Youth? Well, I’m 26 and have been playing videogames as long as I can remember. And, what I remember is not having a Genesis because I had everything I needed from an NES/SNES. Call me close minded, but there was not one single title on any Genesis platform that was worth owning ONLY that system for, in my opinion. Also, they earn a zero in the respect column for never being able to successfully market a system. The Dreamcast was the most underrated system in history, and now Sega is a struggling software company while Nintendo (try as they might to ruin videogames) have made the gaming console mainstream again. Sega put themselves in the ground and only survived as long as they did because they appealed to that kid who wanted to be “different.” Sure, they had some gems and maybe even some “classics,” but they also had Moonwalker.
I have chortles! Certainly one may assess that for being 26 you indeed come off as somewhat “close minded”. Assuming that any self respecting person would buy a system for 1 game is pretty silly, and lucky for you there many games that were quite fun on the Genesis. That being said, I could launch into a good ‘ol internet list of reasons “Geeeoff should have played more games” for you, but I am sure that it would fall on deaf ears, as you are thoroughly convinced that the NES/SNES was indeed all one needed to have “fun”.
Onto the “Zero Respect” silliness, surly you jest… The Genesis was marketed just fine, it sold incredibly well in every major country and was doing great in Japan and had a very strong showing in the US. Oddly enough, the MegaDrive kicked ass in GB/Mexico/agentina/Brazil/Japan/Etc. Simply because many gamers in those countries grew up playing games in the arcade which Sega had such a huge stake in, and was able to make its system friendlier for developers to port games to it.
Which leads me to… How can you not respect a company that has done so damn much for the medium of entertainment you like so much? You don’t dislike a band that doesn’t make it big but makes good music and drives a musical genre forward, or a director who directs great films but is not a household name. Yet you have “Zero Respect” for the company that pushed out new games and supported arcade culture well beyond its fall in the US (Sega is still supporting the dying arcade as we speak.). Which is the same company that brought online gaming to consoles, supported a failing color portable, backwards compatibility (Master System support on the Genesis, genesis on the nomad), non intrusive memory expansion for individual game support (xmen v street/alpha 3 mem expansion) and arguably the heaviest most dedicated support to dying systems. Sega had staying power when most other companies would have called it quits. They’ve given a lot to the industry and having “zero respect” just shows either A: how little you know of their contribution to the industry as a whole, or B: You know way more than I do and are able to push past all this great stuff they did for games and come to the conclusion that Sega sucks…Because of Moonwalker..And whatever other games you were to busy to play because you had a SNES…
So the youth i talk about, in this instance, is your Game age. Like, how much you actually played and were exposed to, which, apparently, was cut in half because you missed out on what looks like over half of the 16-bit era, which is frankly quite sad. But hey, who the hell needs to know anything about games/games history/gaming culture to write about it huh?
*jazz hands*
I got a pina colada Slurpee the other day and it was amazing. The Mountain Dew one had potential but oddly wasn’t sweet enough. Red’s always a good choice. Grape was kinda meh, and better as a purple Slush Puppy (a.k.a. Squishy) back when Circle K tried to compete.
He’s such a beautiful man… hopefully we can make some magic happen and swing an early copy!
Why don’t his beautiful daughters go sliding off of him like all of the Street Fighter characters do?
I don’t put a whole lot of stock into it but it seems there may be a character outline at the end of the trailer before the SSF4 logo appears. Probably just my imagination…
His daughters don’t slide off because they’re wearing their little rubber caps! Duh!
you people sicken me, your judging a game that hasn’t came out yet. AND FYI, Mario sucks, period. I’d rather see sonic turned into a werewolf and stuff like they have been doing than going back and playing Mario games. I have found that all the Mario games are repetitive and tedious to play. when I found out that some of the games were repeats and one was stolen from an old Japanese game called Doki Doki Panic( Mario Bros. 2) I burned all the Mario stuff I had. I was frustrated, then I found sonic. it was new and different every time you got a new game. and FYI again, tails is not the worst because he was an instant star due to his cuteness and ability to fly. so, back off my childhood favorite. I mean who wants to play as an Italian guy, trying to save a princess from a dragon thingy for 20 years? you would have to be brain dead and/ or special ed to play it. if you ask me, I think sonic 4 will be the best game this decade has ever seen.
Well, I’m definitely one who is open to new ideas. But, to assess that I know nothing about video games because I didn’t own a Sega system is pretty fair to someone who does not know me at all. I was a kid growing up who didn’t have a Sega system because I was poor. Both of the NES systems I had growing up were gifts from friends of our family who bought them for us. My parents couldn’t justify buying another video game system for me when I already had one and because, quite frankly, they had zero money to do so.
But, luckily for me, a good majority of my friends had Genesis and even some had the original Master System and in the little time I had played games on any of those systems (whether they were exclusive titles, or ones that were on the NES/SNES) I never found myself enjoying them as much. Now, does that mean that I’ve played every game on a Sega system under the sun? Absolutely not. It means that I was financially, never able to be exposed to the amount of games you were. But, I didn’t blame my parents because I felt like what my systems offered me was more than enough for my entertainment. Until I got to a point in my life where I could buy my own systems, and now I have both a PS3 and an XBOX 360 to expand my horizons.
The point I’m trying to make is that I didn’t have a Sega because in the few times I played, it wasn’t as much or more fun to me. So, maybe I should blame my friends for not having better games than Vectorman? No! I know, I should have made my parents buy me a Sega Genesis because I knew one day some dude on a video game website would trash me for not having played as many games as him!
Nobody brought up what Sega “had done” for their field until you mentioned it. It would be hard to overstate what Sega has done for video gaming. Their systems, their leaps in technology, their innovation for a long time, appealed to a huge audience of gamers. They did a lot of things that are still done today, as well as created iconic characters, one of which is featured in this article. But ultimately their marketing and timing was flawed as a company otherwise they’d still be making consoles. Denying that would just make you a fan boy. Which, I’m okay with being a fan boy, because I am one. And, for the record, I’ve not owned a Nintendo home console past SNES, so I’m not a Nintendo homer.
And, please, don’t take this response as being some kind of “bawww for me, because I didn’t have money to own a Sega system” kind of thing. But, don’t tell me that I know nothing about games or game history, or game culture. Because, you may know a lot about your beloved Sega, but you don’t know anything about me. But, seriously, Jorge, I hate that we’ve gotten off on the wrong foot. I feel like there is a huge misunderstanding and you’re criticizing and judging me for my opinion on Sega which has nothing to do with you. I thought that’s what this site was about. What I said about Sega was largely meant to be trolling, and it’s obvious that I don’t know nearly as much about them as you do. So, to that I apologize. Just the facts, here guys, from now on.
Lol, sorry to say but about half the post DOES in fact sound like excuses for making silly comments, but that is beside the point. Whether or not you could or could not play genesis games or TG16 games or Neo games is not the point. Making comments for the sake of trolling and being offended when someone comments on it is silly. The point I am making is that, yes, you don’t seem to know much about the Genesis. Yes it is a problem when you write about games. Yes this can be remedied. All you need to do is stop thinking “I didn’t own a genesis because I couldn’t afford it and it didn’t have enough good games on it, and start thinking, “I didn’t own a genesis and I may have missed out on a lot of good games. This is stuff I should know about because I love games.” Maybe not as many as you had on your SNES, but I am not here to argue which system is better, I am just stating that making an uneducated comment on the value of a game company for the sake of being a cool internets troll is lame town. There are good games on pretty much every system and as someone who is willing to defend what he knows about games/games history/gaming culture, you should be willing to play or at the very least research stuff about games, even if it was on a system you didn’t own, because you didn’t have money, or you just don’t like the system. Ultimately this isn’t even about the Genesis anyway, it’s about Sega and you saying fuck them. I asked for reasons and frankly they were really weak reasons. Keep in mind all I said was the word “Youth” and you got all up in arms about your awesome 26 years of playing games as long as you can remember. Then YOU brought up the Genesis and its apparent worthlessness, and Sega’s inability to market the Dreamcast.
So in fact YOU brought up what Sega has done in the field.
Point is saying “fuck Sega” after all they have done for the industry is flat out silly. It is in fact, just Geoff trolling. I bit, just to see you defend your comment with a well thought out counter argument. I gave you all the reasons why I say Sega is good…Don’t Fuck Sega.
You say, you played some stuff at your friends houses, it wasn’t all that good. Jorge is just trashing me because he played more Genesis games then me. Then go on about how I started all of this… Tsk tsk.. It’s all fanboyism….
You’re somewhat right. It is. I am a fan of games, so when you say any system is not worth your time, say this or that good company sucks, I will provide you with a counter argument. Because I played and still own all that respective systems/developers shit, and have the experience playing and researching their games to make educated comments about them. This is not in an attempt to belittle or mistreat you, but quite the contrary, if you, with your 26 years of experience came to the conclusion that Sega sucks, and I with my many years spent playing and researching games have come up with a radically different opinion, maybe there is an interesting conversation there. Maybe not in the sense that you will convince me to hate the genesis, but maybe I should play my snes some more, because apparently you know so much about it and it is all so good that playing the genesis seemed like a silly endevor in your opinion.
SO yes, we’re off on the wrong foot. I’m almost always right.
Just kidding, but not really. Okay, yes I love to talk about games/game history/gaming culture and love to hear other peoples opinions on it, even if they don’t have much to say. I think that I just come off like I am trying to be insulting when I am just being really sarcastic, I am in fact trying to gather game knowledge really aggressively and have fun while doing it.
So no I was not being insulting and I apologize if I came off like that.
It could just be me, but it seems like Hakan is a really bizarre character for the sake of being bizarre. He seems altogether a bit too serious, but in a really silly way. Almost like they couldn’t decide how they wanted to portray him. Also, I realize that diversity in fighting styles is one of the many parts of what make the SF series great, but Turkish Oil Wrestling? Maybe Street Fighter needed more grapplers, but I think I’d honestly preferred Alex or maybe even Yun instead of some random niche fighting style.
Regardless, he makes an interesting new addition to the cast of characters in an already outstanding (in my opinion, the absolute best) fighting series. Looking forward to seeing how he matches up with some of the other characters.
Geoff: They seemed to know exactly what they wanted to portray. Let’s watch…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnCsYtZ_JNE
Yeah, Capcom was actually trying to create a silly/serious character something like Dhalsim/Blanka. In that respect they succeeded. I am all about Capcom searching for these different kinds of martial arts/ fighting systems. Also, there is nothing niche about it, entire countries practice the exact same or VERY similar sport. I lik ethe idea because it allows Capcom/Dimps to experiment with more diverse sub-systems for characters which typically makes the characters more memorable. I woul dhave to say that I wish he wasn’t so silly, but it also bleeds quite a bit of awesome. http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2010/03/10_hakanart.jpg
freaking look at him. 7 kids. And one has an action figure. Of her Dad. For all his silliness, Capcom can make him instantly endearing which is really neat.
I have to say I would love to see alex as well, but Alex was a very stoic character that I am honestly somewhat tired of seeing. Not that I am only about silly characters, I just want character. That, and Alex is the main character in the SF3 story line, so I can see it getting a bit weird in SF4.
And I have had my fill of yun for a little while. He was tops in III and was in CVS2. I can wait for a minute. Besides, Gen has to die some time before then.
dick + hole = Cor + ey
why is there an exclamation point behind your name? Are people yelling at you? Are you a deaf? Are you bruping and saying your name at the same time? I need some goodamn answers and this gaodamned electronic website just wasted 1 hour of my free AOL time. Fuck you and your overly loud name sir.
I will never read this interweb page again
Good Day
Corey gave me a “Slurpee” in a closet (ironic) once.
I would like to make sex with you maam. Don’t worry. I am rich. I just got an email letting me know that my Nigerian uncle King David Jaffe Joffer died and left me a shitload of cash and lion pelts and shit. So we can roll around naked in the lion pelts and yell at that fucking Jorge! guy with the exclamation point behind his name. Did you know he watches you pee sometimes?
Did I mention I want to make sex on you?
Love,
Oprah
The guy above me is smart as fuck.
PS: The Captcha is “Fuck” and “You” but no exclamtion point.
DUDE! We don’t hate you guys. Freals.
<3 <3 <3
I actually did almost no editing to this. I have no idea if there is even a cut from the news section to the corners.
Also, the green needs to be darker.
Sweet. I have done all you ask. For some reason I have this pre-ordered from Amazon and don’t remember buying it.
The reason you have it pre-ordered is because it is awsesome.
I greatly disagree with you, I have done strong research and Dante`s Inferno has not sold pass 600,000 copies so far on the charts it and the Divine Edition is at the bottom of the list lower than Heavy Rain, and has been exceeded by Bioshock 2. God of war 3 topped FF 13 on the bestsellers list for Amazon and is in first place, also the Ultimate Trilogy Editions have sold out completely defeating Dante`s Divine Edition!!!! God of war 3`s pre-orders are massive and off the charts according to Sony, not trying to be of a nuisance but you make Dante`s Inferno look more pathetic with your assumptions!! As for the marketing your statements have backfired tremendously God of war 3`s marketing increased greatly with popular associations with NASCAR, huge advertisements and many competitions, EA wasted their money and time, they did so much aggressive advertising and still had a useless result!!!!!!!!! God of war 3 `s reviews as well demolished Dante`s and also put it to shame!
But still some of your assumptions are sensible and I`m not trying to give you a hard time, but if a game like Dante`s Inferno cannot stand up to a game like Bioshock 2(which is pretty awesome) or even a Sony exclusive (Heavy Rain, which is phenomenal), was is the hope of it defeating a game such as God of war 3? Even though it`s one of the driving forces behind February`s game sales, it`s one of the lowest,I bet EA is very much disappointed with it. Bioshock 2 is the leading force for the Xbox 360 and has sold 562,900 copies, the sales are pretty good. God of war 3 already has the record for Sony, that is of having the largest pre-orders sales for any game in the company! Dante has sold 224,700, and the Divine Edition has sold 242,500 thus far!! Which is equally pathetic! It might have beaten Heavy Rain in some terms but not overall, that`s for certain.
I don’t have anything to say to this other than I totally agree. I guess in a world where everything is getting remade or “rebooted,” I’ve finally come across a title that’s near and dear to my (as well as a lot of gamers) heart. I played through to the prehistoric level to fight the gelatinous creature instead of Slash and was immediately turned off. Now, having done some research, I discovered that the SNES version that I grew up playing was actually pretty radically different from the Arcade Version, which I never had the chance to play. Turns out, Slash, the boss from the prehistoric level, was a replacement from the arcade version. There are some other alterations that seem to me like the developers were going for a mixture of the arcade original and the SNES classic. If you haven’t played both, or only played the SNES version then you’ll likely miss out on the mix’n'match. That being said, I’m still happy to be upset by this remake. I’d rather have seen an Arcade port or an SNES port maybe a tweak to the graphics, but not this complete overhaul. Meh.
There’s also issues with who owns rights to which characters. Laird/Eastman sold all rights to Nickelodeon, but thre is some speculation that some characters, IE Bebob/Rocksteady, are owned by a different company altogether. If you are big fans of the franchise, you should watch the last tv movie they did. It was really a freaking love letter to the fans.
Too many people…
Good job leaving Josh laughing in.
Yeah, I wanted to take the Josh laugh out but the audio editing didn’t work the way I had planned so I decided just to leave it in rather than spend 2 hours trying to take it out.
Hey it’s that thing I said. Sorta. http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/18/xbox-360-gaining-usb-storage-support-in-2010-update/
Yeah, I have been reading about the new ability of using the flash drive as storage. They limit it at 16GB though. That is actually more usable storage than the 20GB hard drive which only give you 12GB to work with.
Baby steps I guess. This is very much a step in the right direction.
This is ridiculous. First of all, to anyone saying that Uncharted 2 has “only” sold 3 million copies, the game is only in it’s 6th month on the market and is still selling at full price. With price drops, a Greatest Hits edition, and re-releases, the game will easily top 4 million and may even make it to 5 million!
Secondly, Dantes Inferno has no chance of beating God of War 3 in lifetime sales, even if you combine the two platforms (only two because the PSP really doesn’t count in this situation). Not that anyone commenting here will care that I think that, as almost every comment has the phrase, “PS3tard,” or “fanboy,” as if each of you are shouting out to the internet and challenging anyone to say that God of War 3 and Uncharted 2 are two of their favorite games. What’s your problem? First week sales of God of War 3 will probably run higher than 1 million units, as the pre-orders came near 500k in the US alone, by NPD estimates. Its first week sales will snuff out the total sales that Dante’s Inferno has accomplished in about a month! Don’t make me laugh. Yes, I do believe that God of War 3 is a much better game than Dante’s Inferno (I’ve played both so you’ve got nothing on me), but that doesn’t blind me to the hard facts. If God of War 3 was a new IP (strange to put a “3″ on it, but work with me), and Dante’s Inferno was a long-running exclusive series with both critical and commercial success, you’d see me telling you that DI would sell better!
This makes me sad because the beta code site keeps crashing on me
nice! I forgot, was Belisle the one who had to get slapped for losing the guitar hero bet?
How can she slap?
God of war 3`s sales are amazing, and are at the sales of 550,000 in it`s first day of release in the US alone! God of war 3 greatly defeats the combined efforts of Dante`s Inferno, and Dante`s Inferno Divine Edition. God of war 3 is leading sales on the PS3, and is in the No.1 position.There`s no doubt that Sony is extremely pleased with the results, and also I know that as time goes by, God of war 3 is going to become more massive in sales!!! Not only did God of war 3 do extremely well, but there`s no doubt that other associations of the game did well, such as God of war Collection(Sales are really good beyond that of Sony`s expectations, and the collection of games has high demand!!!) God of war 3 Ultimate Edition is said to have sold-out worldwide on Amazon.
Why yes, I do believe it was Belisle who lost the Guitar Hero bet.
Wow, I didn’t come to Golgotron expecting gratuitous violence. This place just got more interesting.
People in Arizona wear sweaters? This is an interesting development.
Also, care to mention what beverage you are drinking?
Jorge, do you mean TMNT Forever, the movie which was a cartoon cross-over between 1980’s TMNT and 2000’s TMNT? That was hella sweet.
As for this Re-shelling business, they couldn’t even get the “My toe! My toe!” sound right. So disappointing…. especially since Geeeoff hit the nail on the head by pointing out that this was finally a title which is near and dear to my heart.
We only drink Taurino Cerveza during official Goglotron events. We talk about it on the podcast but I should mention it in all the videos too. Maybe that way we can get them to actually sponsor us.
YESSSS! BELISLE USED A HOW CAN SHE SLAP REFERENCE! I really wish I would have been there for this.
HAHAHAHAHA!!
Dante’s inferno got raped by God of War
Just wait till this next video, Quiz. Even I’m scared… O_o
The clear dress is great. So yeah what’s with the article drought?
THERE ARE AN ABUNDANCE OF ARTICLES THAT ARE READY TO BE PUT UP BUT RICH/ANYONE WONT EDIT THEM!!!!!
Ah but much to your dismay, it is only now that you realize that I am not, indeed, Belisle.
Clearly you haven’t met me, Sir.
“I’m talking about a REAL gaming girlfriend that gets wet when thinking about ripping off Helios’ head in God of War 3.” – This is an accurate description as to how I feel about God of War, in general.
“Do you want to sit and watch her play Uncharted 2, Resident Evil 5, Arkham Asylum, Modern Warfare 2, or Braid? Or do you want to play them? I rest my case.” – True story, I made my ex-boyfriend watch me play all of the aforementioned video games, save for Modern Warfare 2.
And the whole thing about FF13… My ex-boyfriend and I, while we were still together, argued about playing through the game together, or going the route of playing separately at different times. We even considered the whole getting another PS3 for the bedroom thing. In the end I told him to bite me because I was playing my own file of FF13.
Also, I like that my picture is used in this article. :p
I love this article. While you’re being a self-important prick putting your personal preferences above someone you supposedly have emotional ties to, I’ll gladly take these girls you shun into my friendly home. Ha!
I have a couple of friends who got together who each are about has hardcore gamer as you can get without becoming socially handicapped. They played through RE5 in co-op and loved every minute of it, despite a bit of a learning curve for her. They play Street Fighter together and have a grand old time beating the hell out of each other, even if it’s usually a bit one-sided. She plays FFXIII on her console and tv setup directly adjacent to his, while he practices combos in SFIV. They play Borderlands for hours on end and never bitch about how one or the other is lagging behind or needs to be revived too often. They talk to each other about the intricacies of the systems in the games they play solo and occasionally lay around watching each other play whatever game they’re into at that time.
The difference between them and what you’re referring to is a level of maturity in their relationship. They share a common interest, and most couples would love to share something they both enjoyed so they had something relevant to talk to each other about. If you’d get pissed at your gamer girlfriend for blowing an online TF2 match, then you deserve to lose that girl. I have a 360 and PS3 in each room of my house. There’s never once been a time where I couldn’t go play the exact same game a girlfriend or any other visiting friend or family member was playing without worrying about spoilers or getting upset with one of them.
Good luck, friend. You’re gonna need to roll a 20 to keep a girl if you act that way. Oh and you couldn’t find a single stock photo online of a troubled couple?
Oh, and Molly… love bubbles. Give ‘em hell.
Tongue in cheek?
Yeah, I was kinda getting the whole, “I’m angry and lonely and venting” vibe out of this. Yeah, relationships take patience, work and compromise. You’re not gonna get anywhere by whining about what you want and bitching about how girls are sapping your fun.
Man I wish my wife played Street Fighter, then I wouldn’t feel like I am speaking a different language when I am trying to explain to her the awesome that just took place on the screen when Subject and I play fighting games.
This video gave me chills.
Moar plz.
Wow. This is gross. Attractive girls and playing games are two things I personally enjoy separately.
Pwned. Stop. Writing. Forever.
This is disgusting. You can’t even play Castle Crashers with them!
You fucking wish you were me buddy.
Why would I pay extra to play some girl’s scrubby Ken online? I get that free all day!
i cant wait to crush hot girls in chess for a mere 8 bucks
Aaaaaaand…. the servers are down for a patch.
I didn’t get you a StarCraft 2 beta key for you to write about Global Agenda!
There was a patch for SC2 yesterday. THE SYSTEM WAS DOWN!
I saw the RSS feed and thought, “Who the hell from Golgotron would post the Ghost Recon trailer?” Et tu, Jorge!?
Why does voice communication still sound like radio from 25 years ago but at the same time they have invisible technology? You would think they would figure out the whole audio thing before fucking invisibility.
Haha good call. Although I have to admit the aesthetic would suffer a little if it sounded too clear. Maybe they don’t put pop filters on their helmet mics or refuse to talk into them like Cory.
come up with an original name
signed,
terrydactle
One of my favorite gaming memories takes place the Christmas after Final Fantasy IX came out, I don’t know what year that was. My two brothers and I got the fancy little PSOne and a copy of Final Fantasy IX for Christmas that year. It was the most amazing gift EVAR.
We usually fought over games except when it came to Final Fantasy. We let my oldest brother play and the two of us would just watch and sometimes instruct. The game was amazing. We basically played the game non-stop when we got it and played long into the night. The first night our mom had to come down and yell at us to be quiet and go to bed because it was too late.
What was great is what happened the second or third night. We had actually already turned off the TV and PSOne and already in bed in the basement. About 15 minutes later my mom comes downstairs to tell us to be quiet and go to bed when we were already half asleep. I guess she could have heard us in her dreams while sleeping or something and thought she needed to tell us to be quiet. It was just one of those funny things about her.
I remember when and where I finished Final Fantasy VII. I ended up being 3 hours late to my uncles 50th birthday party because I started playing and was too far into it to put it down. Games provide a deep meaning to many people and can provide a memory for when and where a specific event took place in your life. I still remember playing Ninja Gaiden for the NES in my cousin’s basement when I was 6 years old.
I also remember getting Final Fantasy IX for Christmas the year that it came out. I still haven’t finished it though. I think I might need to take care of that one of these days.
A few things stand out for me. One was before 7th Grade when I worked at my dad’s arcade for a month during the summer so I could buy myself a used SNES with Street Fighter 2. I also remember my grandmother hooking me up every Christmas with the SNES game I wanted but couldn’t afford. Zelda LTTP, Secret of Mana, FF3, Illusion of Gaia… she came through every year!
As an adult, I remember Jorge and I playing literally 100+ matches of Third Strike at least a few times a week in Tucson. When I first moved up to Phoenix, everyone said I couldn’t get better unless I played against a variety of players and it’d take me a while to unlearn what I picked up playing against one “scrubby player”. A week later, I took second in the first tournament I ever played in, against some of the top players in the nation. I sent the video back to Jorge as a trophy.
One of my favorite memories is of the Christmas when I got Xenogears. I remember not even really knowing what it was about, as I was still fairly young at the time, but thinking that it looked cool. When I put it into my Playstation for the first time, I was entranced by it. Very seldom does a game grab me like that one.
Certain music really brings to mind memories of games for me. I remember growing up and playing the SHIT out of Duke Nukem 3D and I would often times have certain CD’s I’d listen to while playing. Metallica Re-Load and Tool Aenima really still remind me of those games.
I came to Golgotron today to see if you have heard of this atrocity (and if not, I’d point it out to the staff).
This is insulting, demeaning, and there is no way in hell that their servers are down because of interested parties.
I mean, if you’re playing a game, why would you want somebody distracting you like that?
-QuizMaster, some guy
Once I got stood up for a date because while I was waiting at the movie theatre, she was at home playing Katamari Damacy.
I thought that was an awesome excuse.
Hurray for comments!! (Thanks Josh!)
All this sounds good to me. I freaking love Batman and AA was a freaking Batman fans paradise. That being said, I am all about characters people don’t talk about nearly enough. I am totally all about a Black Mask cameo and hell, I would love for the whole this to shift and be set in Gotham City and have the chaos created by the Joker pen up certain revenue earning potential for some more of the b-list characters from the rogue gallery. I would like to see the main villains capped at a low number, much like the original AA, but cameos and run is should happen like crazy. Ideally most having to do with Rupert Thorn and various elements of Gotham City’s mob families (Maroni’s, Falconi’s!) trying to cause all kinds of trouble. Toss in some Two Face, Penguin, Ventriloquist (Peyton Riley this time please, she’s an interesting character, leave me alone!) some Great White Shark the Terrible Trio and for fuck sakes gimme some Clock King. (Temple Fugate) Please. For that matter, toss the Suicide Squad in there, Batman and Robin should be a freaking wreck by the end of this. I would like to see it all come to a point too, where we get some Huntress and Black Canary and Detective Montoya as The Question busting some ass in there somewhere. (Otherwise My wife would have a fit.) With all this craziness it wouldn’t surprise me if Batman (reluctantly) accepted help from some of the other Batman Family characters. It would make sense to have the Birds of Prey in there anyway, as he is communicating with Oracle as it is. And to top it off… You should be working with the Gotham PD, and bring in some of the cool characters from Gotham Central. It should be Gotham under siege, and we get to see a lot of characters helping out, even if they don’t get a huge amount of lines or screen time. Hell JLU had SO many DCU characters that were literally on the screen for 3 seconds, that got action figures. Let’s make this shit happen.
” A pity, I don’t know what to tell you Batman, except perhaps that the 9:15 is always six minutes early. ”
-Temple Fugate
Great article!
Where did you hear about AA2 coming out this year? Did they officially announce it or are you merely speculating?
I’m not a huge fan of sequels. Most of the time, they are fixed versions of the original title, and I don’t have any desire to pay for a game I already played. Even if things are better, it’s not hard to know what to expect going into a sequel.
Batman 2 can go in many directions, but a lot of what made AA has to change in order for what you want to come to fruition. Ultimately, I agree with what you said about what Rock Steady could add. It would make a new magic for the franchise, but it is still a great risk.
In a nutshell, AA1 is Metroid, and people want AA2 to be Zelda. It’s not easy to make that transition.
‘Toss in some Two Face, Penguin, Ventriloquist (Peyton Riley this time please, she’s an interesting character, leave me alone!) some Great White Shark the Terrible Trio and for fuck sakes gimme some Clock King. (Temple Fugate) Please. For that matter, toss the Suicide Squad in there, Batman and Robin should be a freaking wreck by the end of this.’
Jorge, that would be awesome. Just throw as many characters and villains as they can in there and just push Batman to his limits, like in the Knightfall saga. I think that would be a different enough game, while also providing players with a game that’s constantly moving with a deep and powerful story.
As usual, a stellar video, though I think we’re going to send you a shotgun mic!
So basically this is like urban, team-based Crysis? Nifty.
Great PAX coverage. Thanks for the avatar hoodie codes!
Geeeoff: Exactly. It should get to the point where batman is dragging himself to the finish line while he carries the barely conscious bodies of the people he loves. An ongoing mob war with possible involvement of crooked GCPD would limit the cities ability to deal with the crisis and open the door for other characters to help out, obviously in really cool ways. (Man imaging busting stuff up with Montoya as the Question, or a scene where you play as the huntress gathering info on crooked cops) It would also be neat because you get to learn more about some of the other villains that, when written correctly, are just really cool characters. The Terrible Trio/Clock King/Mob families are all ripe with interesting stories and could really be done in some really cool ways. I just like the idea of all these lesser known villains coming out of the woodwork to take advantage of the situation and slowly breaking Batman down.
Holy crap…RockSteady needs to make a Gotham Central game… arrrrggghh could you imagine how hot the crime scene that takes place at the beginning of the series (GCPD investigating the frozen broken up people) would be in a action/adventure game with the Batman AA engine?!! I would love to play as Harvey Bullock…
Crap we need a Sam and Twitch game….
Awesome video. Very nice.
Apology /accepted.
Don’t let it happen again.
Jumpin’ jesus on a pogo stick! I’m gonna have to disagree with ya, Eric #2.
Wait, unless you were speaking like a pirate, in which case you are correct. I wouldn’t mind being yer buddy. Yar.
none of the codes worked.
DUDE!!! A SAM AND TWITCH GAME WOULD BE OF THE CHAIN. I heard for a while that the next Spawn movie would be basically from the point of Sam and Twitch, but I think it’s in development hell. Too bad, would be a great story to tell if they did Spawn right and from their perspective.
They worked for the people who used ‘em!
Two peas in a pod geoff. Two peas in a pod. Yeah I heard the same thing. I saw the McFarlain panel at the Phx Comicon-carne and he talked a bit about it. It is totally in some sort of purgatory.
Actually you are paying $8 to look a pics of a hot girl and talk to someone with a female voice who may or not be female or even human for that matter. To save money you should just buy a copy of maxim and tape the centerfold on your screen while you play halo for the same effect.
I love you Geoff, but in America, we use “favorite” not “favourite.”
We won the Revolutionary War. We use American English.
<3
Oh, that would probably Goat’s pirated copy of Windows 7 that is based off UK settings… damn WORD… FFFUUUU
But, it’s not JUST the $40 bucks. It’s not like you’re going to the car dealership to ADD a new sound system. This is the same thing as buying a new car because of a better sound system. Nintendo made the DS Lite to counter the size of the first system. Then they made the DSi and put cameras in it, and now they’re going back to a larger screen and console size… Nintendo thinks fanboys are suckers. And, they are.
http://www.fabioinc.com/FABIO_MODEL_FOLDER2/fabio_whiteshite_web.jpg
daym… we should have knows it was too good to be true.
I know you said don’t ask-but i think that whatever the hell the 3DS thing is, it will probably play dsi games, do you think that Nintendo will be cool enough to let us transfer those games over? or maybe sony has served as a bad example with the pspgo
Somehow, I knew all along. I stand behind my love bubbles.
On an unrelated note, is that a Planet Express shirt Mollisle is wearing? Jesus tap-dancing Christ, I’m in lub.
That is indeed a Planet Express shirt Mollisle is wearing.
I am terrified.
I’m disturbed on so many levels… for so many reasons.
I don’t like the way my hair looks in that picture, also you can’t see my boobs.
I was always under the impression that the DSi is the current model. It is the logical update to the DSLite and sacrifices little for all the new things it does. (although not being able to play GBA games is still kinda lame, I know I have to let go…) I thought that the DSi XL was an alternative model for people that wanted to have a system that was less portable and had more of a friendly size. Like a DS for moms or grandparents, which to me seemed like a good idea at the time. I am not going to get a DSi XL just because it seems like a step backwards. I want my portable system to be completely un-intrusive while providing me with the most gaming entertainment. The DSi provides that perfectly.
Next time, just hit up gamecrush.com rather than resorting to such Belisle-tling subterfuge.
I knew it! I knew it all along! Also, I agree with Belisle; we need to see boobs.
I will say this about the DSi XL now that I have had it for a few days and really had a chance to use it. Its a 100″ TV, its a heated leather steering wheel, its a 20 ounce steak, its completely and totally unnecessary. And I love it. I get the fact that it was most likely developed for older folks with vision problems, but that didn’t stop any of you from buying a 65″ TV when a 42″ TV would have been plenty right? Its not for everyone but its definitely for me. I kept my original DSi and traded in my DSLite.
For me there was just one reason to get the DSi, and it was barely focused on in this article: the DSi download store. Many of the games on there are deserving of full retail releases, but go for $5. Starship Defense, Number Battle, Dark Void Zero, Trajectory, Pictobits, Boxlife, and Glow Artesian are all really great, and I’d recommend any and all of them to any DS owner.
If there’s any reason not to buy a DSi XL, it’s that Nintendo ties your license to the system you bought your games on, so you’ll need to re-buy any downloaded games, or make the tough decision between portability and the large screen when downloading games. They really need to figure out what they’re doing with DRM.
-Wes
Damn. After hearing some of these comments, I think I’m gonna have to get a DSi XL. I may have to wait for a better option of colors though.
I forgot about the ukulele. Amazing.
Segway Ukulele is completely genius when executed right
I love that these podcasts are coming up later and later. And of course, by love I mean I want to smash the staff’s faces!
Yeah, i got on Josh’s ass about that. The podcast needs to be up no later than Tuesday Joshua. TUESDAY.
I actually JUST picked up Persona 3 FES, looking forward to checking it out after I get done with FF13. Anytime I can find nerd-fecta when being a nerd playing a nerdy nerd makes me still a nerd. math? nerds like math… and equations… gandalf.
Don’t even bother with FF13. Stop right now and play Persona! It will be the single greatest choice in you’ll make in your life. I lost two girlfriends and 162 hours of my life to that game… and I’ll never look back!
P.S. Episode 25 never made it to iTunes.
Be grateful for that Eric… it was turrible!
That was a great show, guys. Nice job. Oh and the outro was awesome!
You have an interesting tongue-in-cheeky perspective. I’ll share my perspective, but I will never share my console.
I truly think that the best way to go is two XBOXes, 2 PS3s, 2 HD TVs.
In separate rooms. Only a REAL gaming boyfriend would see the logic in this.
I don’t want my enemy looking at my screen. I don’t want overly applied AXE body spray invading my senses and making my eyes water. (Bow-chicka-wow-barf!)
Here’s what a REAL gaming girlfriend says to her REAL gaming boyfriend: “Hey don’t worry pookie, If you leave your door open just a crack, I’ll hear the profanity coming from the other room, and it’ll be like we’re never apart!”
Good article.
what is the last one of the random Asian person… oh, and the main picture of this is horrifyingly creepy.
Genius, all of it.
That random person is the actual Easter Bunny. Its a little known fact that the Easter Bunny is Asian. Coincidentally, Santa is also Asian, hence why they’re both so efficient.
Fuck Easter!
Love the Twilight Zone movie reference. Nice one!
Yah, I concur, the reference to “It’s a Good Life” is great. I freaking love the Twilight Zone. Rod Sirling is easily one of my favorite writers.
Hmm, good question! How about Marvel vs DC (vs Capcom?), 2D, balanced, 3rd Strike style animation, 100 character roster!
If it meant getting stuff for free, I would totally sell my sell anybody that wanted it. I hope there isn’t any law that would prevent me from selling my soul multiple times to different people. Maybe it would work like stocks where each person/company only owes part of my soul. That or they would all have to fight eachother for it when I die. I should really look into this, selling my soul might be a great way to make money and get shit for free.
this reminded me of my mom…..
ahh pools! reminds me of the time i was running with a group of resistance fighters in Ecuador, you see we only had about 10 days before the big….wait….did you say Taurino Cerveza?
…Just because you got the podcast out before Friday doesn’t mean you can gloat! Its still F@#$%*G!!! THURSDAY! AND WE RECORDED THAT LAST SATURDAY! DIDN’T WE JUST TALK ABOUT THIS?
The mic that Cory and I were sharing sucks. I know I was speaking fairly loudly, and Cory is typically pretty audible, but you can hardly hear us in this. Blarg!
It didn’t have a windscreen… FYI THIS WEEK’S PODCAST WILL BE EPIC!
The real question is whether they’ll make it TvC or SF4 style. I’ve heard Capcom producers say TvC’s engine made it much more efficient to add characters on a large scale and, like you said, were not uninterested in doing more versus games. I’ve also heard it said that SF4’s engine is so solid that if they had to do SF4 again from scratch that it’d be done in a year. Maybe versus games will go TvC and Darkstalkers / Rival Schools will go SF4.
The scene and market are both receiving Capcom’s latest efforts quite well so it only makes sense that they capitalize.
Oh and thank you for posting a fighting game article so Jorge! doesn’t have to. If you ever seriously want to start doing the butt-handing in SF4, let me know. I’ll give you a TE stick once you’ve beaten Cory and Josh.
http://forums.golgotron.com/index.php/topic,19.0.html
Sounds like a lot of fun. I heard lesbian ass is needed even more in SC2, any insight?
Awesome article. Fuck motion control and fuck 3D too. Holodeck, or controller and everything in between can die.
I landed a few more keys… but I’m reluctant to hand them out after the Belisle fiasco.
That post isn’t much of a confirmation. Capcom hasn’t announced anything and I’m not one to believe development because somebody on the internet says it is.
That’s not to say the game isn’t happening. MvC2 on XBLA and PSN has sold well. Also, with Disney now owning Marvel, new deals can be made about a MvC3.
The reason one hasn’t come out before was contracting issues. I’m not sure on the details, but crap happened (which is why PS2 versions are so rare -there was only one printing on the game).
Overall, let’s see what happens at E3.
Motion-based gameplay isn’t going anywhere. Also, it’s gaming. You play games with it. It’s not a new medium, but it is a different way to experience the medium. I’m all for being able to play games with moving my hand along with using a controller. Options are good and controllers aren’t being dissolved any time soon.
That isn’t to say that controllers are going anywhere. Sony’s Move was announced a new SOCOM game; a game that can use either Move or a Dual Shock 3.
The Wii has sold assloads of units, but when looking at sales numbers, nobody uses it for core, single-player games. Motion-controls haven’t dominated couch-gaming. People don’t want to swing their arms around for 20 hours of gameplay. Developers also realize that.
At least it’s more work for John Di Maggio! I think if they end the series with 3, they can go out with dignity.
Some day in the future we’ll find that Justin Beiber has been behind every early leak in the industry.
I think the confirmation the article refers to is the originally impossible-seeming list of characters for SSF4 that the same source leaked which has come to be 100% accurate. That got them instant credibility as a source for leaked Capcom news. If they chose to put this out there, chances are there’s something behind it.
I agree that Disney is the catalyst for this as much as anything else. Part of their announcement after acquiring Marvel mentioned their desire to nurture the partnerships that have been successful to Marvel in the past. I’ll be honest, Capcom made me love the Marvel characters more than Marvel did.
Exactly, Eric. Because of that guy’s 100% accurate predictions of the SSF4 roster, I’m believing that we will indeed see an announcement for MvC3 by May, if not sooner. I don’t think we have to wait until June for this news.
… hmm that would explain quite a bit.
Seriously, Josh? Podtoid?
Send one my way sir.
w00t w00t Golgocast ftw.
I had a little trouble hearing Cory and Molly but it was no big deal. Keep up the good work guys.
I like to blame everything on Justin Beiber – regardless.
But he does make some AMAZING tweets.
Nice article Geooff! Nintendo will continue to refuse to conform to the industry standard (fancy graphics and subpar game play) and will keep making games that are fun. The Wii changed the way we play video games and not surprisingly Microsoft and Sony are left with a thumb up their ass trying to figure out a way to incorporate motion without looking like they are simply stealing a good idea. Video games have now evolved to be so complicated that the normal casual gamer can’t pick up a controller anymore and enjoy or compete in a game. This simple fact is the reason for Nintendo’s continued success. They remember the smile that washed across our face we all got together as friends and played a game that was simple, mind-numbingly addictive, and easy to pick up quickly. Everyone loves to play games; the Wii simply brought the joy of gaming to the masses. When graphics hit life like levels of realism there will be two things left; game play and stories. Mark my words 20 years from now no one will be gaming on a fucking D pad. .
Can’t wait for this!
If you’re going to take a picture of yourself, use the self timer!
I don’t have one of dem der fancy cameras… Actually, I just couldn’t figure out how to do it.
That picture of Cory belongs on a MySpace page.
But I digress. Sleep is Death seems very intuitive, but time consuming. It looks like it requires a lot of creativity, which I just don’t have (on the weekdays at least). I’m still interested to try it, but I’d definitely need to be part of a group that would kick me into actually putting stuff into the game.
I think that’s going to be the biggest problem with the game. People like the concept, but I don’t think enough people are going to want to invest the time into it for what will amount to maybe 10 mins of gameplay. I’m hoping that players won’t under-value the experience.
No way Microsoft would publish it on PSN, so he expected to find multiple publishers for his cross-platform plans? Seems like he didn’t look at the big picture for even a second.
My next son will be named Jaxon in honour of this, the most awesome name ever created from a typo.
amazing how ea is the good guy now
@Eric. What… in… the… fuck… are… you… saying…over 10-4
Don’t be so quick to let the movie industry off the hook.
http://gizmodo.com/5515450/the-interior-of-a-nazi-ufo
The Nazi army is coming back from their base on the dark side of the moon! Please, please, please let Arnold Schwarzenegger be the hero…
I’m currently a student of the University of Exeter in the Master’s Programme for Western Esotericism (mysticism, magic, alchemy, ‘the occult’, etc.). The head of our program wrote the seminal work on Nazi Occultism, ‘The Occult Roots of Nazism.”
Give it a look for some straight up reality that will blow your science fiction and fantasy right the hell out of the water.
Castle Wolfenstein was the earlier than Bionic Commando.
yes, yes, yes!!!!! the great talent at Infinity Ward is finally free!!! to do what they want, no more control from Activision!! best news ever.
Just like the guys that started Infinity Ward broke away from the Medal Of honor dev team to create their own game, Respawn Entertainment will be the new FPS power house.
Infinity Ward is nothing without its creative force
What is ironic is that these guys left EA to start IW and partnered with Activision. Now they started a new studio and are back with EA. The circle of life?
I immediately need to purchase a DSi and get this game.
i cant wait to py only 8 bucks to play whith hot chicks online, this is gonna make me so horny, finnaly i can play with hot chicks online, seriously, its shit dat you cant see their faces
cant wait to cum over chicks online
GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!
WHO DA FUCK WOULD PAY TO PLAY WITH CHICKS U CANT SEE
HOW COULD THE SERVERS BREAK DOWN
IS THEIR SO MANY NERDY SHIT OUT THEIR WHO CUM OVER HOT CHICKS VOICES
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GAMER CRUSH SUCK MY DOODLY PENIS, RRRRRRAAAAAHHHHHHH
@Ted – Ah yes, but at least this time they are on EA Partners, like Valve, and are not directly controlled by EA this time! ;D
This was a very well-worded opinion article. I really enjoyed reading it, and definitely want to give Just Cause 2 a try!
Although this sounds more like a review than an editorial on sandbox shooters, it was eloquent and well written.
I think most of Tiger’s sponsors are regretting their knee-jerk reaction and distance themselves from his image. It’s only allowed their rivals to creep in. He used to drink Gatorade on the course… now it’s Poweraide… he’s human yet he still can’t lose… I like him even more these days.
half way through rendering this I realized that “the wedge” is kick ass for watching videos, you just close it and put it on the table. Perfect for lunch breaks and stuff, to bad Nintendo hates video players (the wii cant even play a dam dvd)
The Wii doesn’t play DVDs because they didn’t want to pay for the licensing. Nintendo likes money. And it isn’t like anybody really needs it to play DVDs anyways. Also, Wii now has Netflix steaming. DVDs are so 2 years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIGkAmYLlGI
I saw this late last night before crawling in to bed. It looks so fucking amazing.
Venom and Carnage, thats all that I’m asking for.
I love that we still roll with my observation that Terry is Australian. ‘Cause it’s so true.
Also, it was Henry the VIII, he had six wives, and Emma Watson goes to Brown University.
You actually have to have a working webcam to be one of the girls. So you can’t be a fat girl signing up for this, unless that’s what the dudes are looking for.
Is that dude’s name serious Jag Jager?
is red steel 2 by an independent?… wow… terrordactyl is on a roll! haha
After this episode I think you guys should have a love advice section
Photo Dojo has been confirmed for May 10th at a price of $2 in the US.
How many dick pics are you up to molly?
Zero so far, Terry.
I’m hoping I won’t get any.
Or I’ll get a picture of a rooster or something witty like that.
@joe, maybe that’s what i’ll start doing for my corner. 5minutes of dating, with terry and cory.
Do it up terry! Call it tyranosoarus sex time with terrordactyl
its not insulting or demeaning. it’s a service that obviously people are paying for. no one is making anyone go and sign up. get over it.
lol, great headline. And the link you posted for reverb says they did guitar hero and now rock band. Were you bored, lazy and or just trying to be unfair?
looks like it accomplished what it was intended to do, you posted it lol.
Still thinks its funny.
This coming from a website with this type of alexa rating, now thats funny!
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/golgotron.com#
Hey look, I see 3 people posting on your message board, maybe your Alexa rating will jump up 7 spots – whoohoo!
I’d been staring at this headline all week in the RSS feed, scared to click, but now that I have, I see that my reservations were justified. However, I think the real story here is “fratpartygames.com”. Apparently, if you send in a “PONG TOSS GAME ACTION SHOT”, they’ll put it on their front page. I could be wrong, but that looks like a mandate to me (in more ways than one). In addition, the HTML title of the site says, “Mild Language”?
Also, are Dirk Diggler and Jag Jager related?
Between this, Corey’s cigars & Josh’s vest-Its official. Golgotron is the most classy site of all time.
Whoa. Where’s the ‘like’ button?
I’m never touching golgobit again….
when are we gonna make hot girls get REAL JOBS, instead of paying them to be pretty?
Never in my life have I ever wanted to be Golgobit more.
I agree with Belisle?
BTW, let’s vote… new LOGO?
I like Golgobit, he cuddles with me after long nights in the hot tub.
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You’ll enjoy Both Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey. Blue dragon played like a PS1 Gen FF game and looked like the PS2 Dragon Quest, adds a few twists to the fighting system to speed or slow down the grinding. Lost Odyssey is your FF clone, graphics are tight, characters have depth, and side “bed time stories” are a very nice touch.
I can’t see this without remarking on how fluffy that Golgobit looks.
You should keep a log thread in the forums of your experience with whatever game you choose. I’m a fan of Mistwalker in concept and bought up all their stuff but I haven’t played minute one on any of them. I’m in that same boat of looking uphill at a huge RPG endeavor and choosing the alternative.
yah this makes sense, but I’m thinking about getting Blitz for N64.
I love how NamelessTed is so dismissed for his prediction, but Dante’s Inferno sold considerably better than most people thought. It’s at over a million copies with new DLC coming out this year which could potentially create more sales. Hell, people’s interest in GoW3 could actually create sales for Dante’s Inferno, but I digress.
Personal feelings aside, this sounds like it’s pure Madden fanboyism. You throw in a few qualifiers about Madden, but really you seem to miss the point of this game because you’re too busy talking about Blitz and All-Pro. You fail to mention the fact that the entire reason for developing Backbreaker was for NaturalMotion to test out the mechanics and application of the Euphoria engine in a sports game. This is what the hype is about. A team from Oxford University is using a highly sophisticated graphics and physics engine, used in several huge Hollywood movies, in a video game.
Comparing what they bring to the table to All-Pro Football’s offering doesn’t exactly seem fair or educated. No, a first time release is not going to outperform a game that’s been around for decades, but at least they have the nerve to try something new. And no, they won’t outsell Madden, but they may offer something that can get the attention of football fans. Look at Skate and tell me it’s not possible.
Alright, so maybe it’s because I’ve not been on this staff as long as others, but I didn’t think that our articles were here to inform our readers. These are supposed to be editorial articles, not wiki’s.
“Personal feelings aside, this sounds like it’s pure Madden fanboyism. You throw in a few qualifiers about Madden, but… You fail to mention the fact that the entire reason for developing Backbreaker was for NaturalMotion to test out the mechanics and application of the Euphoria engine in a sports game. This is what the hype is about. ”
You can look at all the things that NaturalMotion has done, and yeah, they might be GREAT reasons for YOU to buy the game. But, ultimately, that wasn’t the point of my article and that’s why it wasn’t mentioned. Now, this part is a bit off topic, but do you really think that it being developed by NaturalMotion is going to make people run out and buy it? If you do, you’re mistaken. Sure, industry purists are excited about a football game with a stellar tackling engine and it has people jacked. But it means nothing for a ton of casual or even hardcore Madden gamers. Hardcore Madden guys, are not necessarily hardcore gamers. In fact, I would argue to say that a vast majority of hardcore Madden guys aren’t really even “gamers.” Madden has monopolized football on video game consoles for the most part, and this game will ultimately draw comparisons to not only Madden, but also to the games that have fallen to Madden before, because of that. That was the point of the article.
Geoff! I didn’t mean to sound derogatory or make you think you need to defend your article. Obviously, Golgotron isn’t trying to be a news site per se, but if you’re going to write an opinion piece, you might as well back up your opinion with something of substance so you’re not written off entirely.
I think the fact that it’s being developed by NaturalMotion will not sell a single copy, however it being developed using an engine, that could possibly offer a better or even just a different football game experience than Madden, might. You can’t say though that BCFX and Blitz and Backbreaker are all trying to BE Madden, because there’s a good chance they’re looking to work with Madden to fully fill out the demand for games in the football genre. Who knows; Backbreaker could end up being the Gran Turismo to Madden’s Need for Speed!
Hi, I’m a PlayDate on GameCrush.com
I have a real job. I do this for fun on my spare time. I have never taken off my clothes nor have I flashed anything other than a smile.
Most of the guys on the site are respectful and simply play games. I have not had one person ask me to get naked or show boobs.
For the casual games a webcam is required. And if you would actually take a look at the site, most of the girls are really cute.
You don’t want hot girls and gaming together because you can’t handle getting your ass handed to you.
Right, none of them are trying to BE Madden, because they are trying to create a unique football experience. Dante’s Inferno wasn’t trying to BE God of War (well…), but it’s going to draw instant comparisons to it (for obvious reasons). Ultimately, these games aren’t trying to be Madden by emulating gameplay, visuals, or style. But you can’t argue the fact that they are trying to be SOMEONE’s Madden. And by that I mean this: millions of people roll out every year to buy Madden, whether they love it or just think it’s okay. Backbreaker does want that, they want to be that game that millions of people buy every year. So, in that regards, they do want to be Madden. I don’t think anyone makes a game so they can be second fiddle to the top dog, or to “work with” the top dog. That’s ignorant. This is a business, and they want to be at the top.
And Eric, can you please fess up and admit that 50% of the people that walk into a Gamestop or Best Buy look at the box and go “oh, look at who developed this! Look at the graphics engine! This may create a unique experience for football!” No, bro. They are going to look at the cover art, or look at the name, or the pics on the back and rent it or buy it. To you, me, and most of our readers, the developers/engines might tell some gamers that a unique experience is waiting. But, most gamers in the very casual to casual arena aren’t going to look for that or even know what it means. I understand your point, but you’re trying to come up with a way to tell me my article has no substance and that’s irrelevant because it was supposed to be a humorous piece… so, you can write it off entirely if you want, but you’re trying to argue points that weren’t there in the first place instead of taking the article for face value.
I’m with Kaila. I’m a Girl on Game Crush and this is for fun. I’ve also never flashed anything but a smile. And no it’s not at all like a call center. For flash games web-cams are required by Play dates.
You buy credits witch are 1$ for 100 and an games are 400 credits so if you do the math that’s only 4$ not 8$. Oh wut? Yeah I can do math because I am more than just a pretty face, which most of us on the site are. That’s why we get paid.
All in all It’s like buying a drink for a girl at a bar, but for gamers. You guys would do that wouldn’t you? Cause if girls aren’t worth that to you, I’m surprised if girls are interested in you at all.
Kaila is indeed pretty hot, but I can’t vouch for this other chica. Anyway, she can’t write, “You buy credits witch are 1$ for 100 and an games are 400 credits so if you do the math that’s only 4$ not 8$” and then follow it up with, “I am more than just a pretty face”. You can’t even spell ‘which’ right.
Anyway, at some point we’ll have to do a written version of the ‘Is this gamecrush girl hotter than Molly’, and also a review of the functioning service itself.
I should note as well, that at the time this article was written, GameCrush had different prices set for the gaming sessions. Take note at the date in which this article was posted – 03.24.10. Nearly a month and a half ago. So naturally, the prices could’ve changed between then and now (which they did).
And yes, I am also a PlayDate on the site. I have not actually played anyone yet, but am planning to do so soon, and then write about my experiences with it.
And this whole article is meant to be satirical. It’s meant to make fun of GameCrush and the fact that it appeals to lonely gaming guys. It’s our generation’s 1-900-BOOTY-CALL hookup line. Sure, there are going to be a lot of good looking girls with legitimate intelligence on the site, but I can guarantee that there will be other not-so-good-looking girls up there trying to make money as well. After all, when you play someone over Xbox Live, all that’s required is a headset so they can hear your voice. You don’t have to look like a model to talk into a microphone.
tecmo bowl throwback would be way cooler if it had NFL teams/players
Yes, but you can’t get the licenses for the NFL/NFLPA with Madden hogging that shit up. And, it wouldn’t really improve it that much. I actually like the fake teams, like Blitz did them and Backbreaker is going to do them. The idea of new games where you can create your own football rivalries is pretty dope.
There was an XBL/PSN Double Dragon? Because if you are talking bad about the GBA Double Dragon by Million, I will Abobo your ass next time I see you. That game was freaking fantastic.
On the topic of remakes. I am perfectly fine with them, hell I am fine with movie remakes. Nothing stops people from watching the original version of a movie. It seems like people have some sort of idea that a remake somehow hurts the original, when in fact, an bad remake only serves to bring the original more attention, and a good remake just puts a different take on a good story. This happens with ALL forms of story telling. Film is in no way in danger of being overrun by remakes/bad movies/ mock-busters Etc… There is, in every era of film, a chunk of movies that are not as well done as others.
When it comes to games, XBL/PSN/WiiWare all serve a purpose, and that is to simplify the process of playing your old games. Super Tecmo Bowl was great, and granted, playing in person is the ideal way to settle disputes over dominance, but that is hard to set up seeing as if we got together, beating your ass at STB (I suck at STB BTW) would be much less important/relevant than stomping your guts at SSF4(Still questionable seeing as you play Claw and he is my achilles’ heel, then again, Subject plays one of the best SF4/SSF4 claws I’ve seen in some time, so yeah..). So the online play really helps here because a spontaneous game of STB at a UFC gathering is frowned upon while random games of SSF4/ST/Bust a Move/Puzzle Fighter/Real Bout 2/ Wind Jammers(<- this happens a lot at my house, WJ is serious fucking business.) are completely acceptable. So STB remake is totally acceptable in my opinion.
And clear up the Double Dragon comment or I will push your ass off the 2nd level conveyor belt.
Yeah, they did a full arcade port of the original DD for XBLA. I liked it a lot, because it faithfully recreated the original and let you play with the original versions graphics/music or a “polished” version. Think how they did SSF2THDR, but it was like they didn’t spend as much time on it. Wikipedia puts it nicely: “An Xbox Live Arcade version of the Double Dragon for the Xbox 360 was released on May 9, 2007. This version features an emulation of the original arcade game, as well as an optional game mode featuring redrawn high definition graphics and a remixed soundtrack. It also features support for online multiplayer. It was delisted on July 1, 2009 due to the closure of its publisher, Empire Interactive.”
My only beef with this game was A. At one point, I actually couldn’t play this game anymore, probably due to the “delisting” of the game. and B. Because the version I grew up playing was the NES version, because I didn’t get to arcades too much. While the NES did an OK job of creating a fine port of DD for its time, the nostalgia factor wasn’t as high for me when playing an XBLA emulated port of the Arcade game I never played.
And yes, in SFIV my main is Claw, and I do LOVE to roll some Claw on people from time to time. I tried to move over to Boxer and then Dee Jay when SSFIV came out, but I ended up moving to Guy who I LOOOOOVE! He’s such a beast. But, now we’re totally off topic.
I’m not adverse to remakes. My article may make it seem like I might be, but I’m actually in the camp who also loves remakes. I like the idea of a good story being retold or re-done. But, as a movie geek I always hear people pissing and moaning about “oh, gosh are they remaking that already? Can’t they come up with good ‘new’ ideas?” And it’s a bit dis-heartening to hear, because people just assume that a remake can’t EVER be as good as the first one. In some cases, I think that there have been remakes that have outdone their originals, but people refuse to believe it because of their enchantment with the original film. Take for example, The Dark Knight (not technically a remake, it’s a re-boot, I get it, I’m a Batman geek, so please don’t argue). A lot of people felt and still feel that Jack’s Joker would never be topped and many people “personified” the Joker as Jack Nicholson. I, however, feel that Ledger topped Nicholson in just about every way. But, I also feel that they represented the different era’s of the Joker from the comics, and can’t really be “compared.” But, you won’t stop the comparisons… so whatever. And, now you’ve gotten me on two fan-boy rants today, Jorge.
And, if you push my ass of the 2nd level conveyor belt, I’ll counter by strapping you to a chair and forcing you to watch the Double Dragon movie while Justin Wong kicks your ass at SSFIV. I think, for you, that’d be a pretty rough punishment.
Wow. I got chills when I watched the video. That means it’s good.
I need to see more.
I liked them, too. But, it just seemed a bit too fake. I liked the “somewhat realistic” tone of the first Mortal Kombat film. Although I know that with Street Fighter that it just has a less serious tone as a game, as well. So the movie has to either try to be overly serious to over compensate, or try to be less serious like the games, and neither has worked. I’m happy with them just making good Street Fighter games, and not getting a really good movie. They aren’t going to get a director who is a fan enough to make it happen and provide the budget to make it happen.
“or should we have just dusted off the classic VHS and watched it that way?”
My Blu-Ray player doesn’t play VHS. :*(
I just want to jump in here and add a little something.
I wouldn’t be so quite to dismiss the power of a developer to sell a game. Sure, NaturalMotion might not be a name that anybody knows but there are plenty of other games that I think do sell because of the developer. Rockstar, Bethesday, Bioware, Infinity Ward (well…), are all studios that a lot of people recognize and I think people will purchase games from developers of games that they have bought in the past.
As far as Backbreaker goes, I can’t wait to get my hands on this game. I don’t really like Madden, but this game looks to bring a unique element to the football genre. I think the uniqueness of this game will be able to move copies and I think this is one of the few games that has the chance to really catch after its release due to word of mouth IF the game turns out to be fun.
We don’t care.
We don’t have to care.
We are Hakan.
I completely agree about the Diabolical Box ending. It was absolutely retarded. There is no way that many people could share the exact same hallucination, and there was no explanation to reconcile that.
“The only way playing Final Fantasy XIII any longer than I did would be worth it is if it turned into a woman and gave me a blowjob.”
Are they working on that?
Hey, it looks like the big G has their own Jim Sterling. Hooray.
I hate to say that maybe Eric should have wrote this article. This article seems really forced and under-researched. Oh well, now that we have an opinion from the anti-ffxiii camp, maybe someone should write the counter article.
I was never going to write the review because I hate the game so much. Molly has had the game for a couple months and never wrote the review like she was supposed to. If Eric or anybody else want to write a better review then they are more than welcome to do so.
I wouldn’t say that my review is under-researched. I played the game for 20 hours. The game just completely sucks, in my opinion. I could have honestly written 5 pages on how bad this game is and gone into detail but I figured nobody wanted to read that, and I didn’t really want to write it.
While I have no opinion of the game (from everyone I’ve heard, it’s mediocre at best), I kind of have to say I have mixed feelings about this article. It does seem very biased, so I kind of agree with Jorge. However, I also am fine with NamelessTed only playing this game for 20 hours and writing a review. In a game like FF, after that much gameplay with so much more gameplay left, you already have a grasp of how the game is going to pan out. The only thing that can redeem someones opinion of a game that takes that long to play, is a good story, but the story doesn’t make or break the game and will ultimately not make up for any of the other shortcomings. I’m not speaking for FF specifically, like I said, I’ve never played it. But, I know that I wouldn’t keep playing God of War through the end if the only redeeming quality is the story. I can’t tell you how many games I’ve stopped playing because they were just boring as shit (Darksiders) or offered nothing of substance or value in terms of gameplay (Darksiders). The same can be said for a movie; are you going to watch the entirety of Spider-Man 3 because you think the scenes with the black Spider-Man suite or Venom are kinda good? Hell no, you’re going to avoid that shit like the plague.
I guess my point is this: you don’t have to complete a game to form an opinion. Can some claim an invalidity to said opinion? Yes. And are they just. In their own way. Ultimately, this is an opinion piece on a game and the only way to get an opinion is to experience it. I’d say for someone who plays games like Nameless does, 20 hours is more than enough time “researching.” This article was still biased.
You linked to the wrong file there.
Sorry about that. I had the stream set to the right episode but not the download link. Should be fixed now.
I wasn’t a fan of this podcast. Hopefully next week will be better.
I apologize for my lack of a review.
It’s simply because, much like Rich, I lost interest in the game. I got to Chapter 11 when it becomes open-ended, and I think I kind of felt meh without the linearity.
The characters are pretty flat, and the only thing that was really fun about it was the battle system, like Rich said.
I dunno, that and it’s harder for me to play super long games anymore. I share my apartment with a roommate, we both play the same games, and I got sick of having to trade off the game. I’d have to wait for him to get to a certain part to play anymore, and vice versa.
I’m sorry I’ve failed you. I promise really good forthcoming GameCrush articles to make up for my laziness.
PS Rich – I need a webcam :p
Hrm… I’ll just say not my favorite article, Sorry you ‘Had’ to write it, it did not seem very fun for you. It does serve its purpose in telling us how much you had to stop playing it, I really do hope you find a way to get those 20 hours back somehow; however it serves little value to someone who is interested in playing it or learning about what the game is really about. Half of the rant is saying how much you hate the game so much you can only muster the strength to talk about what was good about it and the other half was making excuses as to why the article did not have enough full evidence to back its claims.
When you have to say things like “The story itself seems interesting, but in the 20 hours I played”, your generally not going to sound very credible. Also the Fal’cie and l’cie they keep saying over without knowing what is about would be like me writing a review on old yeller, not finishing the book and wondering, Why the hell do they keep talking about this damn dog all the time!
Lets go to the books – Metacritic score 8.2 out of 10 out of 50 publications. Can’t fade on math.
However – I’m not against negative opinions, there needs to be balance in the universe. I’d just appreciate some hate with some passion and maybe some humor behind it, This one made me laugh so I’d thought I’d share -
Nick 3/10
“Emo Hallway Simulator 13 is one of the most dissappointing games I’ve played in years. There isn’t much good to say about the gameplay itself. The storyline is worse than laughably bad, the characters are over-emotional and terribly annoying, the graphics are so-so, sound and music are lazy, the cut scenes get stale very quickly, the new fighting system results in mindless button mashing…. all that aside the real tradgedy of this game is how it has exposed the unapologetic scam that is the game-review industry. It is beyond me how any professional outfit could rate this junk higher than even a 7/10, yet I’m seeing 10/10s everywhere. Shame on you world.”
I’m on Chapter 12 and enjoying it, It’s by no means perfect, but I will finish it. I’ve spent about 30 hours on chatper 11 itself. While its not my favorite Final Fantasy, I can say if you stop to look around you may enjoy some of the most unique and detailed environments to date (Chapter 3, Chapter 7). I’ve spent some time admiring the detail in hidden backdrops which a normal run through would bypass, the polish in the graphic design is in my opinion currently unrivaled. The Characters do need work, badly. The glass half full argument would be that there was issues getting lost in translation and localization, but Sqaure should be beyond that at this point. Some conversations tough to swallow, in these instances I put on my otaku face, grin and bear it. I can see how some could not stomach it. However the game is deffinatly not deserving of a failing grade. If I had to score it now… I’d give it a B-. Proof that with enough polish you really can make a turd appealing(to some).
I mean, I can go into plenty of detail as to what really makes this game bad.
The first part is that the game treats you like a retard, yet not telling you anything at the same time. The opening cinema literally has a missing scene. One second a train is going through this huge area and is getting attacked, the next second all of the characters are outside of said train and shooting at people.
Not a single one of the characters is interesting and they are all over exaggerated in everything they do. Hope’s mom dies right away in the game, a scene which has no gravity because EVERYBODY is dieing and it is just another random character that there is no reason for the player to care about. From that moment Hope gets all super emo and decides that it is his mission to kill Snow because it is somehow his fault.
The game teaches you how to play it one painfully slow step at a time. It introduces a very simple battle mechanic and then has to do that thing over and over and over again. It would be better if it introduced additional gameplay elements sooner in the game.
The character animation in this game is also complete shit. I understand that when you have a game like Final Fantasy VII on the PlayStation 1 you need to exaggerate some of the animations because you have a lot less to work with. Over animation is a technique that can be used in live theater a lot because most of the audience is farther away so you have to adjust and make sure everybody can see what is happening. Movies, however, don’t need to do this. The camera can get up close and personal so the acting can be much more subtle. With the level of detail we have with todays consoles, animation needs to be more subtle. SquareEnix has this idea that it is still 1997 and it looks really really bad.
Another problem is the story itself. This may sound like nitpicking but parts of the story are just ridiculous and make no sense at all. Hope and the gang are all on the run from the government and need a place to hide. Hope’s dad helps them all out until they are discovered. In the middle of all the chaos, another army shows up to save the day and everybody gets to escape. But for some insane fucking reason, they decide that they have to tie up Hope’s dad and make it look like they forced him to help them so he won’t get arrested. Why wouldn’t they just bring Hope’s dad along for the ride where they can keep him safe?
A scene that happens not long after that is between the black dude with the afro and this young chick who gets way too excited about everything whose names I can’t remember right now. Basically, the two of them are watching the rest of the characters getting attacked on national television and they show no indication of caring whatsoever. Right after that, they start wandering through some garden or some shit and the black dude’s little chocobo runs away so they spend an entire hour looking for the fucker. Seriously. Why the fuck is this part in the game? It is bullshit filler. It servers no conceivable purpose to the story other than to show that the characters don’t give a fuck about anything but a god damn little chocobo.
I mentioned in the actual review that the battle system is one of the better parts of the game. This is true, but only when you have a good combination of character. At one point in the game you are forced to use the Snow and Hope combination, which is beyond comprehension. I guess it is supposed to build suspense in the story because of the whole part where Hope wants to kill Snow but Hope is just a giant pussy so nothing ever happens with that.
This part of the game actually pissed me off the most. The way the game seems to be programmed is that enemies will have very different attack patterns based on the characters that you are using. Right before this section I had Hope and Lightning and maybe somebody else. The combination works fine because Lightning can deal a lot of damage and hope offers support and whatnot. So what happens when you just have Hope and Snow is that the game wants you to use Snow’s defensive class to draw the attacks away from Hope. So you use Snow’s ability to draw the attacks, and then Hope does no damage because he is worthless so you have to switch Snow’s class to one that does damage. As soon as you switch, the enemies butt fuck Hope in the ass immediately.
At this point you have to switch Snow back to defensive and draw the attacks. There is almost nothing you can do to make these battles last less than a minute or more just to kill two or three enemies. I will note that when you have Hope and Lightning, this isn’t a problem at all. Enemies tend to attack Lightning over Hope and Lightning is able to do considerable damage and you can finish fights in 20 seconds. It is only when the game wants you to use defensive abilities that the enemies decide to destroy Hope unless you draw their attacks to Snow. This is fucking bullshit. It is one of the worst things I have ever seen in any video game that I have ever played. It is tedious, boring, and annoying.
I also can’t fucking stand the environments in the game. Yes, they are pretty. But they serve no purpose within the world of the game. Why do these giant platforms move back and forth and why are the characters running through here? Because its cool? That seems to be the answer about 90% of the time in this game. Very very few of the environments have any reason for being the way they are other than that it looks neat.
I think the real problem with this game is that so many things seem out of place and there are so many problems that I am not able to believe that the world within the game is real. I need to have a suspension of disbelief. Alan Wake does a brilliant job of being based somewhat in reality but being able to make me believe that everything that happens in the game is possible. I have been playing a bit of Fable 2 again recently and I think it succeed as well. there are a couple thing that seem a bit out of place but Lionhead has been successful in creating a world that is alive and believable regardless of the unrealistic things that happen in the game. SquareEnix has completely failed in this task with Final Fantasy XIII.
Wow, after writing all this out I think I like the game even less. 4/10 might have been a bit lenient considering the only thing they did well is the basic structure of a battle system.
I also want to briefly add that the lack of towns or anything comparable makes the game feel like it is missing something. I understand that they integrated shops into the save points so the basic functions of the towns have been supplemented with something else.
But I miss the feeling of the towns. There is something that you can’t replicate without having some form of towns or a home base to return to. When you go out on an adventure, it is nice to have a place to go where it is safe and you can go from shop to shop and sell you loot and stock up on potions or anything you might need.
The game might have some sort of central hub once it opens up after Chapter 10 but the game is completely lacking something this feature in the first 20 hours.
This has been released and its free until June 11th.
Put all this stuff in the actual article Rich.
Yeah, you guys were pretty tough on molly there XD,
Molly I’m looking forward to your Game Crush experience article.
Quite a hilarious concept. Personally I think it’s a waste of money, but then again I don’t get lap dances at the strip club either.
“The first part is that the game treats you like a retard, yet not telling you anything at the same time. The opening cinema literally has a missing scene. One second a train is going through this huge area and is getting attacked, the next second all of the characters are outside of said train and shooting at people”
Ok, this literally never happened. Check the opening scene again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv2OG6rh6bs
at 3:18 you can see that an enemy is attacking the train, rips a hole in the roof and they all climb out to fight it. Maybe it is the reviewer and not the game that deserves a 4/10…
Ok, this literally happened. Go to the 2:45 mark. One second one of the segments of the train falls off the track, and the very next second there are loads of people standing and shooting at some dudes from across the way. This transition makes no fucking sense.
It looks like the train fell a considerable distance which leads me to believe that everybody would die if not be severely injured. But somehow, everybody in the trains seems to have picked up a gun, gotten outside the train, and engaged in combat in less than a second.
Do you understand what I am complaining about? Other scenes have similar issues. And you can’t just push it aside and say it doesn’t matter; it does matter. It matters because I watched the opening cinema and I was confused in the first 5 minutes of the game. Somebody fucked up if people playing the game are confused when you are still in the opening scene and haven’t even gotten to the gameplay. Just watching that opening scene makes me frustrated.
Yes, the train crashes and falls (although how far it falls before it settles to where you see it in the next scene is uncertain) The people already had guns (see the people behind Lightning and Sazh at the 2:00 mark, they have guns, so it can be assumed that they all have guns). Anyways, after the train crashes below, would you expect them to not get out and fight? I don’t really get why you were confused honestly. I don’t really think that anyone really “fucked up”, more than it is that you just couldn’t follow the sequence. At no point in the game was I confused to the point where I couldn’t follow the story, albeit a few times I didn’t know why things were happening, but those plot points were revealed later on in the game.
Anyways, your initial comment was that “One second a train is going through this huge area and is getting attacked, the next second all of the characters are outside of said train and shooting at people” Which is untrue. Not all characters were suddenly outside shooting at people, in fact the main characters remained inside the train. It seems like a silly thing to get confused about, enough to make you include it in your review (or comments about your review). Maybe I am alone on this one, maybe other gamers are confused by the opening cinematic, all I am saying is that from a story telling perspective the whole “The train is attacked, crashes, people get off the train and try to defend themselves” makes sense. Again, you are entitled to your opinion about the game, just didn’t seem like a solid criticism from a reviewers standpoint.
There are other problems with the scene as well. It shows 1 segment of the train falling off the track and in the next scene it shows what appears to be 3 entire segments of the train having crashed on the platform below. It also isn’t an issue of the people wanting to get out of the train, I think it is an issue of their ability to do so. That shit just got fucked with lightning and fell a significant distance. There is also the point that it is completely inconsequential to the actual story so there is almost no reason to show it to begin with.
There is also the issue of the soldiers instantly trying to blow the train up. It seems a bit ridiculous. The train and the city seems to be controlled by this massive army. It seems a bit silly that they would instantly resort to blowing the thing up and completely ignore any possible damage that might be dealt to the track/road. Maybe its just me.
It really is just a small issue. Irregardless of the opening scene, the 20 hours of the game that I played are crap.
Some Rival School Characters would be awesome!
This explains so much.
these truths..they hurt so so much
I opine that to receive the http://www.lowest-rate-loans.com from creditors you ought to have a great motivation. However, once I have got a college loan, because I wanted to buy a bike.
I downloaded this and played it several times. The games is not without its flaws, but it’s such a fresh alternative to Madden. I’m not psyched about the camera and the defensive controls really need work and these are not elements expected to be fixed by the time the game releases, but I’m still going to buy this game. I’m really excited for the potential for the team creator option.
Yeah, I think the camera is fine on offense but the defense threw me off. When you switch to another player that is closer to the ball carrier the camera spins around to that player and its very confusing.
Other than that I enjoyed the game and am going to play a bit more today. I am a guy that can’t stand Madden because it bores me and is nothing like actual football, IMO. Backbreaker is a bit more exciting.
NEW GAME: Play Tackle Alley. But, only Showboat and not run. It’s hysterical.
“I’ve caught myself staring at my 360 collection, wondering what to play rather than actually playing”
True this. That is why I’ve started really thinking about what is going on whenever I find myself wanting to buy games. I think to myself “Sure, I’d want to play this, but I still have yet to finish [list of games I am already playing]“.
I feel sad (but not necessarily pity) for those who have sealed games that go unplayed (for the players, not the collectors). I often find myself figuring out how much they could have saved if they bought the game later, rather than right away.
When it gets spelled out like this one can’t admire the money making machine that this franchise has become… a new game out every year and yet the gaming community seems little affected. Considering other popular shooters like L4D that seemingly divided and destroyed the their networks’ power.
This runs in the family. Our father has every CD/DVD/Blue Ray/Laser Disc under the sun. When I am at home… I take a look at my recent downloads and choose something to listen to. When I visit my dad… I go spend an hour looking through his collection before finding something to watch or listen too. So in two visits I could have watched an extra movie or concert…
P.S. Do I see an ABBA blue ray there?
This game is absolutely horrific. When I downloaded the Dev Diary videos, and saw all these guys with british accents telling me how they we’re gonna immerse me in a game that felt like realy football I was like “what do you british guys know about American Footbal?! Go make a soccer game or something!”
The engine is cool I guess, but all in all, it’s a very bland game. It’s a shane EA had to be a bunch of dirty bastards n buy out the NFL License. The 2K series from Visual Concepts was some of the best football ever. I remember being so excited for All Pro Football 2K8, but it was a pretty big letdown. NFL2K5 is still the best football game ever made in my opinion
Well, I have to say I completely disagree with your point, OfManNotMachine. You failed to mention why the game isn’t done well, and only that these “guys with british accents telling me how they we’re gonna immerse me in a game that felt like realy football.” That seems to be a common theme on the boards all over, but at least others had reasons why they didn’t like the game other than that. First of all 2K5 was the most overrated piece of shit ever. The game sold really well and was received well due to its price tag. Was it a decent game? Yeah, but at that price, they could have put in Tecmo Bowl and it would have gotten the same response. People looking for anything other than Madden with the same gameplay style as Madden will be disappointed, for sure, because BB plays nothing like any football game out there. But, to say that these guys can’t make a good football game because they are from Europe is the worst argument, and you’d know it’s not even a valid one if you played the game for more than 2 seconds. It sounds like they could teach YOU a thing or two about an “American sport.” That ‘American Sport’ just happens to be a sport that was forged from the cores of Rugby and Soccer, two things that the British do very well. So, while American Football may not be their forte, to say they can’t do the sport correctly is ignorance and it means you didn’t spend enough time with the game.
The only part of your argument that had ANY validity is the game being bland. Surely, for a demo, it’s not filled with a ton of bells and whistles, but at least that argument had an opinion that wasn’t just anti-European sentiment. It sounds like you just need a game with the NFL license and that’s fine, when Madden 11 comes out this year, we’ll both be in line to buy it (as I have been for the last 9 years) but, when I see those canned animations behind every single tackle for the 11th time in the same quarter, I’ll switch back to Backbreaker, and be online with my custom team and authentic game engine. Peace out, newb.
Joe this is so-damn-good. I love to presentation and the humor. Really, amazing job man. I can’t wait to see more!
That was a very awesome and original review. I hope to see more of these in the future.
Alright Rich, this game is just flat out terrible. The reason you like this and not the Madden franchise is because you don’t know jack about sports, or have any interest in them whatsoever. The Madden franchise is hugely successful because it makes the game fairly realistic which is what people who like sports like to see. This goes for just about all successful sports games outside of skating. For you to praise this game and say that the Madden franchise bores you because it isn’t anything like real football is a statement that testifies to your lack of knowledge of anything sports related.
If this game is anything like the demo, it will be horrific. The controls suck and the attempted rough and tough music that is inserted is laughable. You are incapable of running in a straight line when you pitch it to your running back or pass it to your receiver because the camera action is pathetic. The defensive controls are simply terrible also. I would imagine that if I were to sit down and play this for an hour or so I may become more acclimated to the controls. This is not what I want, I want a natural feel to the controls that come easily, which is what the Madden and the NCAA franchises deliver. There was not one enjoyable minute for me during this demo play. The millions of individuals who play Madden and NCAA Football will not go for this game. I would rather play NFL Blitz on the N64. It was a waste of my time to even download it. Thanks a lot Rich.
Oh Hai, Is there ah button to punch people in this game?
When I say that Madden isn’t like real football, I mean to say that Madden is too scripted for me to enjoy it. Everything in the game is done very specifically and it shows.
The reason that I enjoy Back Breaker is because it is really utilizing the Euphoria Engine to create procedural animation. There are plenty of preset animation in the game but every time you make contact with another person, the Euphoria Engine kicks in and I really like it. If the defense makes a tackle and catches the ankle or hit him straight on, and depending if the running jumps or stiff arms completely changes the animations.
I agree that the defense kind of blows, but I like the offensive elements in the game.
I find myself doing this when I am browsing the Netflix live queue also. Im sure that I could have watched 2 or 3 movies for the amount of time that I have spent looking for something I perceive to be better than what I already have in my queue.
This is bitchin. Good to see those pictures came in use.
Alright, I may be the only one here who agrees with Rich. But so far, the knock against Rich is that he’s not a sports gamer and I’m not seeing anyone justify their hatred for this game with anything really concrete other than the control scheme. Are the controls the same as the controls for Madden/NCAA? Of course not, it’s not going to play like Madden- get over it. I love Madden just as much as the next guy, I buy it ever year. It’s taken Madden years to develop the control scheme they use now and they refine it every year. A game doesn’t need to have perfect controls to be a good game, and I don’t even think the controls are bad, I think that there are just a bunch of Madden die hards who won’t play anything else or even give anything else a chance. Crawford said “I would imagine that if I were to sit down and play this for an hour or so I may become more acclimated to the controls.” No shit? If you sat down for an hour you may learn the controls to a game you’ve never played? You mean, you may have to learn? And the “natural feel” of Madden you’re referring to? It’s only natural because if you’re anything like me, you’ve been playing this game for the last 10 years or more and the control scheme is largely unchanged. I would hope that it’d be natural to you after that long, I’d be terrified if it wasn’t, actually. Rome wasn’t built in a day, guys, and Backbreaker is not perfect, but so many of your arguments are based fundamentally on the fact that the game isn’t Madden. You need to get over that real quick.
Hey Geeeoff,
First off, I wasnt tyrying to be anti-europeaon…but it’s no secret that most europeans…dont like american football. If these guys wanna make a football game, hey…more power to them man. I’m just saying the game is terrible. Now I’ll illustrate why I think it is.
First off…To say NFL2K5 is the most over rated piece of shit ever…is a pretty wild statement. The game always sold quite well even when it was $50. Also…you may be in line to buy Madden 11, but I won’t be. I haven’t purchased any Madden game since EA went exclusive with the NFL. I’ve never really liked the Madden games. I’ve tried em out every year, and I’m just not into them at all. I agree with Rich saying they felt too scripted. And there’s always easy cpu exploit plays that make it unplayable online. Perhaps these existed in NFL2K5, but I never came across any myself when playing it. And I played it quite alot.
So….Backbreaker….
I’m not expecting bells n whistles from a demo. What I do expect…is to gather a decent idea of what the game is going to play like, if I decide to shell out $50 for it. Is the game engine nice? How all the tackles are different? Sure it is….but all that’s going…is making every tackle different. It feels every bit as scripted to me as Madden, of even NFL2K5. Just different animations. Does not having NFL teams make it worse? Sure…but I cant fault the developers for EA being a bunch of greedy bastards.
But I don’t feel this game gives me anything worthwhile. If you enjoy the game, sweet man. Enjoy playing it. I was just saying it did absolutely nothing for me. The camera angle is really akward. But what it is…is an arcade style football game. The dev diary referred to it is “an arcade sim” Sorry…u can’t have both. It’s one, or the other. It’s an arcade style game similar to blitz, but probably alot better than blitz.
It just felt bland to me. Sorry we disagree.
Of course, I am not here to start arguments. My sentiments is that this game is getting a lot of criticism from it “not being Madden,” and this is coming from those who are both fans of Madden and not fans of Madden. If you look at the 2K series (2k5 in particular, because it’s considered football Valhalla), the game is terribly overrated. The reason why I feel this is: 1. The game shipped at a $19.99 price tag. It didn’t drop to that, or become that price, that’s how it shipped. Your game should outsell Madden based on that fact alone, if it’s even moderately good enough, and I’m pretty sure it didn’t. 2.) The game hasn’t aged well. The graphics were on par with Madden’s (I’d even give the edge to 2k5, but only slightly) but the gameplay wasn’t that different! So, it was total fodder for those who simply were anti-Madden and wanted a new experience. The problem is that the game didn’t offer that different of an experience. If you compare the gameplay styles, they are largely the same basic set up. 2k5 took the gameplay that Madden created, made some tweaks, slapped a 20 buck price tag on it, and sold it. I at least give BB the points for trying a new gameplay style. 3. 2K Sports has done nothing since 2K5 for football. Games have proven time and again that an NFL license is not required to be successful. Yet, 2K put out their game in 2008 and it was so incredibly mediocre. They had years to develop a game that could live up to the hype of their football mecca, and didn’t because they just didn’t or can’t. Speculating here, but if they are such superior game makers to the Madden developers, then why haven’t we seen an un-licensed game for football since 2k5 that isn’t just mediocre? YOU DON’T NEED A LICENSE TO CREATE A GOOD FOOTBALL GAME. And people, stop hating on Blitz. The series was outstanding, there is a reason they made as many of them as they did. And Blitz: The League? Underrated as hell.
OfManNotMachine, I’m not mad or even upset, I just felt like your argument came from a place of many others and that it wasn’t really self thought out. I feel like so many train themselves to hate this game because it doesn’t play the way “they want it to,” but they have no idea that the way they want it to play is just like the game they don’t want to buy. I just don’t get it. It means you either really don’t hate Madden, or are really just holding some kind of grudge.
1:26-1:31 is extremely funny.
Well,
From my own experience it went like this…Back in 99, when I purchased the Dreamcast, well..Madden wasn’t an option. I had honestly never been much of a Madden fan, I played them on PSX, and I played some on PS2 as well. They just never did much for me. Is the game complete garbage? Of course not. It just never did anything for me. Blitz, same thing. To me…Blitz is crap, but I can see why certain people would enjoy it alot. It’s arcade football experience, and for some, that’s perfect. It’s just not my thing at all.
The 2K Series I’m sure when it was selling for $50 was being outsold big time by Madden. Back before NFL2K5 came out, I used to work for Game Stop. I’d always ask people when they we’re reserving Madden “hey..have u ever played the 2k series? It’s not too bad, ya outta try it sometime” And I’d almost always get “Nope…not even gonna try it. I ONLY play Madden” So I’d ask why. The response “cause it’s Madden” I’m sure the guys at Visual Concepts felt their game was superior to Madden, and I’m sure they discovered the same thing, there was a large number of people who weren’t willing to pay $50 to try out their football game. So hey…why not release the next game at $20 n see what happens? More people are likely to try something new for $20 instead of $50. I honestly have no idea how well it sold in comparioson to Madden, I’m sure it still got crushed in sales but I’m sure it had a pretty good increase in sales. Enough of an increase for EA to say “we better make sure they can’t make another NFL Football game!”
I totally agree with you that All Pro 2K8 was TERRIBLE. I bought it the day it came out. I didn’t care about the NFL License. I just wanted to play a good football game. Maybe my own expectations of the game was why I didn’t like it, but like you said, they had YEARS to develop it, and it flat out sucked.
I totally give the guys credit at 505 studios or whatever the studio is called, for tryin to make something different. However, I just feel like the game doesn’t know if it wants to be blitz, or a madden style game. It’s like…caught in between the two. I’ll certainly say it’s better than All Pro 2K8 that’s for sure. But again…I bet most people want the NFL License, and I’m sure this game will sell poorly. But honestly…even IF the game was AMAZING, it’d still get crushed by Madden. Simply because….90% of football gamers, for some resaon…play Madden, and refuse to play anything else. Madden gamers probably won’t even try the demo of this game.
At least I can say I tried it out.
I can say myself I’m not loyal to a sports franchise. I used to prefer the 2K hockey games, then over the last couple years, I felt the EA hockey was so much better. I always try out both every year. I used to be a HUGE fan of Pro Evolution Soccer, but it’s become very stale, and The FIFA games from EA the last few years have been incredible.
Hopefuilly I illustrated my point a little better in my last post, and this one here.
By the way, really like the site. You guys all do a great job.
This is fantasic news! I own ICO and Shadow, but even with the upscaling of the PS3, they still look like crap on an HDTV. The games ran in a really low res to begin with. You can only make a crappy low resolution look so good.
While I’m a fan of remastering to a point, I hope it doesn’t go overboard with re-releases. I remember back when you’d buy a DVD, and 3 months later another version came out, followed by another one 3 months after that.
I’m all in favor of classics getting an HD make over. Obviously Final Fantasy 7 would be fantasic to see an HD remaster.